Summary
Stephen Moore, a senior economic adviser to US president-elect Donald Trump, urged the UK to adopt the US “free enterprise” model over Europe’s “more socialist” system, suggesting it would enhance the Trump administration’s “willingness” to pursue a UK-US trade deal.
Moore also defended US agricultural practices and Trump’s proposed 10% blanket import tariff, noting possible exemptions for allies like the UK.
UK leaders, including Keir Starmer, face pressure to balance trade ties with both the EU and US, with figures like Peter Mandelson advocating dual trade agreements amid Brexit challenges.
Ohh… the US economy where people need 3 jobs to afford groceries and where health insurance only covers expenses if you aren’t too sick?
It’s time for another episode of “Everything I Don’t Like Is Socialism” with Donnie Temper Tantrum!
Poor can work at the Mar-a-Lago for food or die in a gutter. That’s the American way.
Uh, Socialism please.
“Well we’re all out of Socialism. We only had three bits and we didn’t expect such a rush. So whaddaya want?”
What, so my choice is “or US free enterprise”?
Oh …well… then I’ll have the chicken.
“Tastes of human sir. Would you like a white wine?”
I don’t mind working with the US even with Trump leading, but the EU is clearly a natural partner. They’re right at our doorstep.
Trumps knowledge of the EU is solely what Farage tells him. Or should I say, whispers to him after rubbing his belly.
What is more worrying is what Trump thinks of the EU. This guy is a threat to democracy and international law.
And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.
This world is completely screwed with politicians like Trump in power.
Yeah, of the world’s leaders vast majority of them are dictators or wannabe dictators. Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, Modi, Netanyahu, Erdoğan, Orban and the list goes on.
And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.
In there pursuit of being a more effective controlled opposition. Voters didn’t ask for this. Harris ran a conservative campaign and loss on that. Don’t let the democrats blame the left for their loss.
“C’mon, guys, be fascist like us!”
Cancers metastasize.
It seems wise to always to agree with whatever these guys say, if there’s no binding language involved. So yes, sure, the EU is literally Stalin, handsome mister Trump, sir.
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I’m sure they’re hanging on his every word.
Capitalism has served me well and, I think if you have a particularly strong work ethic, then the American model can serve you well, up to a certain extent.
BUT, I am not a sycophant. I have seen the dark underbelly of the American model, how certain vampires at the top of companies will maximize profits at the expense of literally everything else - contractually locking in customers and then raising rates on them to the point where they can barely afford it (they’d call that “equilibrium “). Firing good long-time employees because new fresh blood is cheaper, damned if it makes everyone else’s life harder, including that person who gave their life to the company. Predating on the meek, desperate, or just those who don’t think like them, in spite of what it may do to the relationship long term (fuck any sort of commitment or customer relationship at all because it can’t accurately be monetized).
These people chase money above all else. They’re loot dragons. The only relationships they have are those that either think like them or those they can manipulate and control.
So no, don’t chase the American model, but perhaps borrow from some of its most useful tenets. There are good motivated people in the flesh, but the structure is rotten at its core.
I crushed it and have the American Dream. My experience now is, I’m surrounded by old people, trustfund kids, and people who broke themselves to get ahead.
I have to raise my kids knowing that 80% of their classmates have no chance and hope they luck out and also fall in love with a career path that pays well. All of my friends I grew up with are in a constantly struggle, none of them will own a house. I have friends with PTSD from serving in the military and even with the VA loan option and GI bill they will be lucky to own a house by 50 if ever.
I can’t even talk about my life, my struggles are meaningless compared to those around me. I feel like an outsider in America because I actually did what everyone says is the goal and it is wild to me. I’d give it up in a heartbeat just to feel like I was in a community of equals I felt safe to raise a family around.
Pick socialism, dont fall for it. Dont become corporate property. Dont let them own the world.
Socialism isn’t even on offer these days. What Republicans consider socialist stretches all the way from communism to conservatism.
TIL I live in socialist EU.
If you consider that European conservative parties are on the same political spectrum range as the US Democrats, and the US Republicans are basically the European neo-Nazis, this makes Americans see normal European social-Democratic parties as “communists”.
The American political spectrum has shifted to the right in ways that prepared the ground for Trumps coming Machtergreifung.
The Union shall establish an internal market. It shall work for the sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.
Emphasis mine. In a nutshell a social market economy is a Realpolitik compromise between capitalism and market socialism, where private ownership of the means of production is tolerated but said ownership doesn’t entail complete power over it, through e.g. co-determination laws.
To make this more concrete, and maybe blow some Yank’s mind: Volkswagen’s employees elect 50% - 1 seats on the board. Together with shares held by Lower Saxony (usually run by a socdem government) they run the place, no matter how many shares the Porsche/Piëch clan and the Saudis have. It’s why VW itself worked towards unionising its own plant in Chattanooga, to the bewilderment of many. Sadly can’t unionise the plants in China the CCP hates it when workers have a say.
Ironic for China to not like unions.
Tankies gonna tank.
OMG they cat even communist properly.
Lucky you
Must be a different EU
TIL I’m emigrating to socialist EU.
No, the UK isn’t in the EU. Unless I’m misremembering your posts
I realize this. I was joking that the UK isn’t going to take up Trump’s economic model. It isn’t going to be like the EU either.
Remember how great Brexit was, they say.
Yes UK is an economic powerhouse now thanks Brexit
Britannia rules the waves.
