I find it hard to believe people making those memes are dumb enough to believe the underlying message. The pro-palestinian activist crowd was way too small to change anything in this massive loss, and I’d wager more of them percentage wise went and voted for Harris after all, than registered Dems did. Those people are politicaly concious enough to care about foreign politics, something vast majority of the voter base doesn’t care in the slightest. I’ve seen you fuckers shadow boxing with some theoretical far left cabal, both apparently major in terms of being blamed for diverting voters and insignificant in terms of being worth listening to according to your propaganda, and I’ve barely ever seen anyone from the left saying that they wont vote for Harris. You’ve spammed those memes about not voting for Harris being a vote for Trump and pointed fingers at abstract pro-palestinian crowd, despite knowing fully well those people were going - and did, by the way - to vote for Harris. Dems lost not because of the politicaly engaged people on the left, you morons. Dems lost because they completely failed to engage people that weren’t interested in politics. They completely capitulated the border issue to the GOP, allowing to full blown fascist narrative to emerge - something that wouldn’t have happend it they pushed back instead. They paraded the animated corpse of Biden for far too long, going they could get away with it somehow. Completely sanitized Harris and muzzled Walz after their initial pro-workers and anti-corporate messages. They tried to shame people into voting instead of engaging them, shitted on the open primary, silenced arab communities, and then got confused when people not caring about politics too much failed to show up.
You’re trying to show how much smarter you are than the anti-genociders with those memes, but you’re completely missing the mark. This outcome is exactly what those people warned you about. People are mostly disengaged from the politics, and when they vote, they vote based on vibes. The year long support for genocide, broadcasted on every station and in many speeches, is a fucking vibe killer for many voters. The Dems had atrocious vibes all the way back from the october 7. They should have never give a green light for killing the civilians, on either side. They fumbled and refused to acknowledge it.
But yeah, Gaza is a relatively minor issue to the voters, seeing as people aren’t interested in foreign politics at all. The reason why Dems lost was a sum of many other fuck ups as well. They barely even talked about Biden being pro union and walking the picket line. They barely pushed against the inflation lies. They laser focused being anti-immigration and calling Trump (deserved, sure) names. They’re 100% guilty of letting Trump rule now, seeing how bad Trump campaign was. And seeing how your current propaganda looks like, it seems like you’re not going to learn any lessons from this loss, assuming you guys ever get to vote again.
Seeing no push back from the Dems side it’s hard to imagine they weren’t in on it. The reason they lost is because they hammered on with pro-genocidal sentiment and with completely non-effective outflanking Reps from the right, and now the next administration is continuing what previous one started. Nothing out of ordinary, though I do feel rather silly for believing that Dems had any reason to listen to their voters and that they wouldn’t instead listen to donors that paid for the campaigns of the both sides.
For the record, I do believe that losing to Trump required incredible effort from the Dems side, and damn them they pulled their weight.
It’s as if I complained that the boxer I bet my money on came to the fight with the pillows strapped to his gloves and you claimed that he lost because I complained. Get real.
My “activism” was limited to pointing flaws in Dems strategy in comments under posts on lemmy
Trump annexation insanity looks bleak in contrast to a year of murdering children in Gaza, especially seeing how it was a year leading to elections. So far, only on the topic of Gaza, he’s doing incompareably less harm than Dems did. Though sure, I doubt it will hold.
You really don’t see it, though, do you? The surveys paint the obvious picture that people flet turned off at the Dems for Dems supporting a genocide, and you read that as a reason to bully those people and not as a reason for Dems to do anything different. You call my disapointed comments about Dems failed strategy to shame the voters into voting despite their disapproval of what the government did an “activism” instead of thinking how a regular person would think of a government official that supports murder of Palestinian children. I mean, come on, you can’t have your head so far your ass that you wouldn’t see how that made Dems electability chance drop to the bottom, even against Trump.
You claim it’s my “activism” that made Dems lose, completely in spite of what the surveys say, of my non-existent range (especially in comparison to Dems, lol), and even in spite of me never telling anyone not to vote for them - I did the opposite, many times. You have to be insane to try to put the blame on people that said the Dems strategy was bad instead of putting the blame on Dems for implementing this strategy. And I give you 100% chance that Dems will lose in 2028 again unless you absolute morons change your approach, including both you and people like you, shaming people for disagreeing as a part of your completely impotent “activism”, and the party itself.
It’s not, pro-palestine crowd in USA is relatively politicaly concious, so you would be hard pressed to find people from that group that didn’t vote for Harris. Idea that people caring about Gaza in USA would be unaware that Trump is worse pick is flawed, as it would require both awareness about foreign affairs and USA capabilities in terms of negotiating the ceasefire, and also being completely unaware of Trump attitude towards Palestine and Israel. Also, anyone caring enough to protest most likely cares enough to vote, so those people weren’t the issue.
Dems fucked up their campaign big time and now they’re looking for scapegoats to blame, unable to admit to their many flaws that led to this result.
I find it hard to believe people making those memes are dumb enough to believe the underlying message. The pro-palestinian activist crowd was way too small to change anything in this massive loss, and I’d wager more of them percentage wise went and voted for Harris after all, than registered Dems did. Those people are politicaly concious enough to care about foreign politics, something vast majority of the voter base doesn’t care in the slightest. I’ve seen you fuckers shadow boxing with some theoretical far left cabal, both apparently major in terms of being blamed for diverting voters and insignificant in terms of being worth listening to according to your propaganda, and I’ve barely ever seen anyone from the left saying that they wont vote for Harris. You’ve spammed those memes about not voting for Harris being a vote for Trump and pointed fingers at abstract pro-palestinian crowd, despite knowing fully well those people were going - and did, by the way - to vote for Harris. Dems lost not because of the politicaly engaged people on the left, you morons. Dems lost because they completely failed to engage people that weren’t interested in politics. They completely capitulated the border issue to the GOP, allowing to full blown fascist narrative to emerge - something that wouldn’t have happend it they pushed back instead. They paraded the animated corpse of Biden for far too long, going they could get away with it somehow. Completely sanitized Harris and muzzled Walz after their initial pro-workers and anti-corporate messages. They tried to shame people into voting instead of engaging them, shitted on the open primary, silenced arab communities, and then got confused when people not caring about politics too much failed to show up.
You’re trying to show how much smarter you are than the anti-genociders with those memes, but you’re completely missing the mark. This outcome is exactly what those people warned you about. People are mostly disengaged from the politics, and when they vote, they vote based on vibes. The year long support for genocide, broadcasted on every station and in many speeches, is a fucking vibe killer for many voters. The Dems had atrocious vibes all the way back from the october 7. They should have never give a green light for killing the civilians, on either side. They fumbled and refused to acknowledge it.
But yeah, Gaza is a relatively minor issue to the voters, seeing as people aren’t interested in foreign politics at all. The reason why Dems lost was a sum of many other fuck ups as well. They barely even talked about Biden being pro union and walking the picket line. They barely pushed against the inflation lies. They laser focused being anti-immigration and calling Trump (deserved, sure) names. They’re 100% guilty of letting Trump rule now, seeing how bad Trump campaign was. And seeing how your current propaganda looks like, it seems like you’re not going to learn any lessons from this loss, assuming you guys ever get to vote again.
Wow a giant wall of text filled with shitty excuses. Not sure what else I expected from the Pro Palestinian anti Harris crowd.
May Palestine receive the fruits of your labor.
Excuses? I’m not even from the USA. That’s a critique. And you seem to miss the point of it entirely.
How’s that anti Harris activism working out for you?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/04/trump-netanyahu-gaza
Seeing no push back from the Dems side it’s hard to imagine they weren’t in on it. The reason they lost is because they hammered on with pro-genocidal sentiment and with completely non-effective outflanking Reps from the right, and now the next administration is continuing what previous one started. Nothing out of ordinary, though I do feel rather silly for believing that Dems had any reason to listen to their voters and that they wouldn’t instead listen to donors that paid for the campaigns of the both sides.
For the record, I do believe that losing to Trump required incredible effort from the Dems side, and damn them they pulled their weight.
Cool story, may you get exactly what you voted for.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/02/trump-palestine-gaza-protest-project-esther
https://apnews.com/article/rubio-immigration-guatemala-trump-border-deportation-f928f64eec96b46a880069cbd5580d34
https://www.thefire.org/news/trumps-threat-deport-anti-israel-protesters-attack-free-speech
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/30/trump-pledges-to-deport-hamas-sympathisers-on-college-campuses
It’s as if I complained that the boxer I bet my money on came to the fight with the pillows strapped to his gloves and you claimed that he lost because I complained. Get real.
Lol, not even a remotely close analogy. Given your actions it doesn’t surprise me.
You really don’t see it, though, do you? The surveys paint the obvious picture that people flet turned off at the Dems for Dems supporting a genocide, and you read that as a reason to bully those people and not as a reason for Dems to do anything different. You call my disapointed comments about Dems failed strategy to shame the voters into voting despite their disapproval of what the government did an “activism” instead of thinking how a regular person would think of a government official that supports murder of Palestinian children. I mean, come on, you can’t have your head so far your ass that you wouldn’t see how that made Dems electability chance drop to the bottom, even against Trump.
You claim it’s my “activism” that made Dems lose, completely in spite of what the surveys say, of my non-existent range (especially in comparison to Dems, lol), and even in spite of me never telling anyone not to vote for them - I did the opposite, many times. You have to be insane to try to put the blame on people that said the Dems strategy was bad instead of putting the blame on Dems for implementing this strategy. And I give you 100% chance that Dems will lose in 2028 again unless you absolute morons change your approach, including both you and people like you, shaming people for disagreeing as a part of your completely impotent “activism”, and the party itself.
Lol, you’re not from the US… well this one’s on me. I wouldn’t have wasted my time on someone who’s opinion doesn’t matter.
Let me know what country you are from, love to know when Trump brings the rain.
Aye, you’re not wrong. The meme is still accurate though.
It’s not, pro-palestine crowd in USA is relatively politicaly concious, so you would be hard pressed to find people from that group that didn’t vote for Harris. Idea that people caring about Gaza in USA would be unaware that Trump is worse pick is flawed, as it would require both awareness about foreign affairs and USA capabilities in terms of negotiating the ceasefire, and also being completely unaware of Trump attitude towards Palestine and Israel. Also, anyone caring enough to protest most likely cares enough to vote, so those people weren’t the issue.
Dems fucked up their campaign big time and now they’re looking for scapegoats to blame, unable to admit to their many flaws that led to this result.
Yeah it is