• PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 days ago

    The sheer number of trump voters I’ve heard say they were originally gonna vote for Bernie is larger than you would imagine.

    People are angry the system is rigged, trump channels that anger and says he will solve it. Granted he won’t and they’re dipshits for believing him, but that’s how it goes.

    • UsernameHere@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      9 days ago

      100% of Trump voters I’ve met call Biden and Kamala radical leftist that are responsible for inflation and many other things.

      I’m sure there are some fringe trump voters that would vote for Bernie but not enough.

      Trump has foreign bots, the billionaire class and republican propaganda machine all helping him.

      Bernie would be depending on donations from lower income workers.

      • PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        8 days ago

        I am talking about the voter swing required for trump and GOP to sweep the whole government. That isn’t because of Trump supporters, they would vote trump if he personally knifed their mother in front of them. That is because of disenfranchised fence sitters who put zero effort into educating themselves and then vote for a change of leadership off of a gut instinct that a different person cant do worse. Its ignorant and wrong, but look no farther than worldwide elections this year showing a huge ousting of incumbent officials. Inflation has been unreal, and the uneducated think the president controls literally everything (see the “I did that” stickers on gas stations nationwide) People want change but they don’t know how to get it, and here is a man yelling and screaming about how he is going to change shit.

        I know its difficult to imagine being this ignorant, but i truly believe this is how a lot of people operate. Its not malice, its ignorance and apathy.

        • UsernameHere@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 days ago

          I would vote for Bernie but in my experience many voters are closer to the middle of the ideological spectrum than far left or right.

          • PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            7 days ago

            This is very true, a lot of people get wrapped up in their bubbles, either the internet bubble or their own personal bubbles, so they believe the bubble when it says “everyone is left or right” but there’s a ton of people sitting in the middle just apathetic towards being invested politically.

            The kicker is that those people in the middle are villanized by both sides as being a part of the other side. Instead of them trying to bring them to their ideology, they push them away. But this was what the constant polarization through wedge issues get you, an easily divided populace that is fighting about things the political figures on either end don’t actually care about, so you vote for those issues instead of the ones that prevent the ever increasing cancer that is billionaires.

            Its all a distraction.

              • PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                8 days ago

                In this case, id have to say they’re full of shit. We did this to ourselves when the government chose to chase the needs of the capitalist over the people that make up the country. That’s like tossing a match into an active fire and saying you started it.

                • UsernameHere@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  8 days ago

                  I think think there are more moderates that far left or far right because the majority of people are exposed to talking points from all ideologies.

                  I think the internet is causing more people to stay inside their echo chambers and drift further left or right instead of being exposed to nuance.

                  But I suppose capitalism has played a part in forming those echo chambers. Facebook being one example that comes to mind.