• EndlessApollo@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    I have looked at a few dozen of your comments, and absolutely none have advocated for making things go to shit in order to make society collapse, or anything remotely close to that, just people arguing against voting democrat, or even just people criticizing democrats. Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?

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      24 hours ago

      https://www.project2025.org/

      https://www.25and.me/?topics

      The US just elected a fascist dictator. Millions of people are now at risk of being deported and millions could be killed by fascist policies. Your argument is unsuccessfully minimizing how badly this election has fucked us. The people arguing against voting Democrat are the accelerationists arguing for a strategy to make society collapse.

      Why are you lying about the accelerationists that are supposedly everywhere?

      I recommend paying attention. The results of this election could impact us for decades to come and may lead us to some of the worst outcomes of climate change. Accelerationists have fundamentally misunderstood the lessons of history and have demonstrated they do not care about anyone but themselves. Things get better when we learn from our mistakes not when we repeat them. Watching things burn is useless. We have to do the work to make things better. edit: typo

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        22 hours ago

        You’re very blatantly just calling people who voted in ways you disagree with accelerationists. You’re intentionally misrepresenting them to portray them as evil because if they don’t Vote Blue No Matter Who they must be evil and want the world to end. Please get your head out of your ass <3

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          20 hours ago

          Your argument is what is known as a straw man. No where in my argument do I claim accelerationists are evil. My argument is that accelerationism as a strategy is useless.

          Your argument isn’t based on the discussions on Lemmy or anything in the argument you are responding to. If you aren’t going to engage with either of those then there is little point of continuing this discussion.

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            20 hours ago

            Every conservative accusation is a confession. This applies to liberals too apparently. How in the heck are you gonna say I’m strawmanning you while literally calling people accelerationists when they don’t claim to be xD fuck off l*beral, from the river to the sea 🇵🇸

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              19 hours ago

              From the river to the sea. I’m a social democrat.

              If you actually cared, accelerationism would bother you because they left the Palestinians out to dry. Trump being president may have killed Palestinian statehood. Israel is talking about annexing the West Bank. These election results have undoubtedly extended the genocide in Gaza for at least the next four years, assuming anyone lives that long. Israel wants to build a greater Israel out of Lebanon too and Trump is going to let them. Accelerationism is useless.

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                19 hours ago

                Keep referring to Muslims and immigrants who want a president that won’t kill them as accelerationists, surely this time shaming people will get them on your side

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                  8 hours ago

                  The accelerationists are predominately privileged white people who see Muslims and immigrants as the cost of doing business. Accelerationists seem to think they can shame everyone else into accepting genocide. No matter how much your argument or theirs tries to twist the truth, refuting these arguments will be trivial.

                  This election we had a choice between a Democrat who wanted to end the war and a Republican who wanted Israel to finish the job. Choosing the Democrat was the most useful choice to help the Palestinians. The people arguing for things to get worse in the hope they get better by not voting Democrat are making the accelerationist argument. Those positions are in fact one in the same. Your argument is pretending they are different, but is unable to articulate any difference whatsoever.