Hey everyone, I’ve removed bans for everyone that did not request one in the previous admin thread. (I think. If you got banned and I didn’t restore your account yet, let me know and I’ll fix it.) Don’t worry! We’re not gonna just ban people for no reason.

In case anyone hasn’t seen it yet, Alaskaball confirmed that Sangria was their admin alt. They were messing around with their admin tools on their own account and figured it would be seen as a funny bit, but without being informed of the bit many of the mods and admins were just as shocked, confused, and appalled as you were. I’ve talked to the other admins and mods, and we’re all gonna take it easy on bits for a bit. (Pun intended. This is the last one, I promise.)

If you’re afraid that there’s been an infiltration of transphobic, egomaniacal wrecker mods who hate the users, I want to assure you that’s absolutely not the case. The overwhelming majority of mods and admins on this site are trans. Our admins are all trusted, long-time users in good standing. We regularly browse, comment, and post on our main accounts. You post and chat with us daily as comrades, and we value all of you. You may not recognize the usernames on our admin accounts because we regularly swap the alts used for admin privileges. This is why you’ll see really old or unused alt accounts as well as really new accounts on the admin team.

I’ve seen a lot of speculation down below, some entertaining, some upsetting. We absolutely do not accept transphobia or any form of bigotry on this site. Some of the statements provided by mods and admins have been seen as transphobic and bioessentialist. I want to offer some transparency, but also clarify that I can’t get much more specific on this for personal security reasons.

During the earlier discussions on how we felt things could be improved with these communities, multiple trans mods and admins described their reasoning in favour of the change by expressing with a variety of wording that it’s the [he/him] demographic in particular that has been the source of toxic and troubling behavior in the tanks. That the he/hims haven’t been beating the accusations, so to speak. With that group being largely cishet white guys on this site, these two terms were assumed to roughly correlate. We weren’t making prepared statements for release, the comments that got posted here were paraphrased and combined from more casual comments made by trans people, in the mod chat to mostly other trans people about some of the chauvinistic and ironically bigoted posting habits that they saw as alienating and unhealthy for the site, and what we could do to improve the situation. We genuinely didn’t foresee the potential for a miscommunication of those statements as being bioessentialist, and want to extend our sincerest apologies for the misunderstanding.

Edit: Please feel welcome to post in c/gossip as you would have posted in the_dunk_tank, and in c/counterpropaganda as you would have posted in the_dredge_tank.

  • Lyudmila [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOP
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    The mod who was accused often has limited internet access on weekends and I was able to confirm that she literally hasn’t had internet access since Friday and still doesn’t. I had to get in touch offline.

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      Let’s say this statement is completely true. That still does not preclude the possibility that the first wrecker account (which was made on Friday) was the mod in question. The mod in question was actively posting only minutes before the wrecker accounts popped up. You expect me to believe that the mod in question coincidentally lost internet access at exactly that moment? At the moment that someone decided to impersonate them on alts? Come on.

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        Almost every weekend she goes to a place that does not have internet access. She is currently in that place. Multiple mods were able to confirm that she is in that place, and that there is no internet access there. We’re not going to doxx the person you’re accusing, obviously.

        Also, honestly I feel like I’ve moderated enough of her comments to say I don’t really see enough resemblance to say it’s an impersonation either.

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          Also, honestly I feel like I’ve moderated enough of her comments to say I don’t really see enough resemblance to say it’s an impersonation either.

          Oh ok, so you just think I’m a complete fucking rube who will believe whatever bullshit you make up. Come on. No one talks like that.

          https://hexbear.net/comment/5609816

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            Maybe I’m not analyzing the posts hard enough, but I’ve never seen helltakerhomosexual call someone a bozo, and lots of terminally online twitch viewers say things like “let’s goooo,” I wouldn’t exactly call that a smoking gun.

            I don’t think you’re a rube, but I do think you’re very invested in this whole thing and could probably benefit from stepping away and taking a break from the site for a little while. As could I.

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              I do think you’re very invested in this whole thing

              Unfortunately, because you admins clearly are not. Instead of giving me a bunch of unsolicited lies buried deep in a thread where I’m just trying to put my thoughts out there without having to debate obvious bullshit, why don’t you reply to my top-level comment? It was like the third comment in the entire thread, it was a simple and natural and reasonable question phrased in a reasonable way. This comment chain down here is dead to you. I have already explained why I will not and cannot believe you, your story does not make sense. Give this one up, and try telling the truth about something for a change.

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                  I’ve said this once before but I would like to state it publicly. I am a dumbass. Ive been wrong before and I swear to you all I will be again. If I can be proven wrong here I’ll apologize myself. I would hate to be in their position if they really are innocent lol

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                    I’ll say I’m more or less spitballing here but while I was with the movie watching crowd on the hexbear live one of the regulars there mentioned someone, who’s name I haven’t heard in a hot minute, getting a temp ban over being a little shit and DM harassing someone. Coincidentally after that a bunch of these lemmy club accounts start popping up.

                    I can’t confirm the helltaker thing because that info outside my wheelhouse, but I’d be willing to say helltaker’s like a secondary suspect to who I’m thinking of mostly because I haven’t seen a little peep from them but plenty of suspicious activity from my prime candidate, at least on the mod logs

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                Lmao, nice find. We’re all still pretty confident it’s not her given the lack of internet access in the place she is.

                I’m not going to doxx someone to prove their innocence from being annoying on the internet. This weekend, I mean. She’s definitely guilty of being annoying on the internet plenty of other times.