We’ve all seen it, and it has become more and more prevalent in recent years. I get the desire to dunk on WASPs, and that’s all in good fun as far as I’m concerned, but I’m getting really tired of reading these weird theological arguments from leftists who think that the problem is the ideological framework of Calvinism or whatever. No. The prots have institutional influence where you live, and that’s all there is to it. In the (many) countries where the Catholic church has institutional influence, they’re the bastards.

They’re the bastards where I live, but I’m not going to start blaming it on the dogma of transubstantiation or whatever, because that would be bad analysis.

  • Runcible [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    11 days ago

    I’m not going to start blaming it on the dogma of transubstantiation or whatever, because that would be bad analysis.

    Amusing that you call this out (correctly, imo) and get rewarded with a thread full of assholes tripping over themselves to say “DAE Christianity/religion bad?!” instead of any meaningful thought regarding this

      • Runcible [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        11 days ago

        I think it’s fine to say Christianity is bad, I just think doing so in a fashion that is that dismissive in a thread about “weird christian sectarianism on the left” that talks about bad analysis is maybe not the place to do it if you aren’t going to give any reasoning. That said, I didn’t intentionally call you out and I apologize for that.

    • propter_hog [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      11 days ago

      I’ll be the first to admit that I’m an asshole, but I wasn’t in my comment about Christianity being objectively bad. That’s not a spicy take. It’s like saying anthropogenic climate change is happening.

      • Runcible [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        11 days ago

        This was not great phrasing on my part. Arising partly a result of spending a fair bit of time with someone who used “asshole” to mean “person selected at random” but partly because I do think that coming in evidencing the behavior the post is about with a completely dismissive take with no reasoning given is rude. In essence OP is saying they think this behavior is problematic and it is being used as an invitation to display it.

        • propter_hog [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
          2·
          11 days ago

          Ok, I can get behind that, But would my original comment of “Christianity is objectively bad” be more welcomed if it was followed by a bullet list of examples? I’d think you still would have called me an asshole in that case. I wasn’t trying to pick on OP, and I’m of the opinion that all organized religion is objectively bad, but Christianity has proven over the millennia to be at least one of the worst offenders.

  • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.netEnglish
    12·
    11 days ago

    i think it’s somewhat inherited from anglo-german imperialists who made such claims to exceptionalize themselves as the good capitalists and imperialists, whereas the catholics (particularly spain, italy) had a backwardsness and ineptitude in their imperializing and capitalizing.

    • Andrzej3K [none/use name]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Oh there’s loads of stuff tied up with it: the history of anticatholicism in England, how that relates to Ireland; then you’ve got the North/South American axis too. And this stuff matters, but theology is not the driving force of history, is it

  • Speaker [e/em/eir]@hexbear.netEnglish
    131·
    11 days ago

    ITT: “meet people where they’re at, unless where they’re at is a church. I am The Materialist”

    EDIT: snarky repliers beware, I will check your comment history for how many times you’ve said “in sha’Allah”