• Can someone explain to me why Libs, specifically libs who root for the blue team seem to have more hatred for people who did not vote or vote 3rd party than the Republican team who is supposed to be their opponent?

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      They see third party voters as more closely aligned with democrats, while they see republicans as lost causes. In short, they think they have a much higher chance to get third party voters to vote for their blue ghoul, while they don’t see how they can sway a deep red republican. Obviously the Democratic party would never compromise with third party voters and their fanatics don’t care about that. So they just berate and scold third party voters.

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          Had Kamala conceded on Gaza, I’m sure the Greens/PSL would have dropped out.

          Greens maybe, PSL i would hope not, but why would Democrats ever do something like that? That’s a terrible deal for them. The amount of votes they’d gain from that would be vastly outweighed by the amount of Zionist & MIC donor money they’d lose. Imo they acted rationally according to the logic of bourgeois “democracy” - you gain more votes from having the donor class on your side than doing any amount of things that would actually benefit or please the average voter.

          I mean i’m glad that third party voters sent a message that support for genocide will be punished even if only marginally, it’s the morally right thing to do, but i don’t think that the Democrat party gives a single shit about that message. They will have learned nothing. But hopefully the voters have, namely that the system doesn’t work for them but for genocidal psychopath billionaires, and that all the US government’s pretense about human rights is a cruel joke. This is one more step on the path to class consciousness.

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      In all honesty i think it’s probably similar to how we hate libs, libs as typical with their kind, think that the practical choice is to vote for kamala so that their boogeyman do not win. The weak left who care about things like a genocide or are done with the two party system are hypocrites to them, because they cannot look past the democrat astro turfing and beyond their own farts. Well, i for one just want to watch that wretch the country implode but i pray for the safety of my comrades with either of them winning

      • I mean I can get that they see it as a vote for trump ect ect. what gets me is that they are often MORE mad about a none vote or a 3rd party vote than a vote for the republicans, and I just do not get it. Like if your fear is the other guy winning I would just assume you would hate anyone who does not vote for your person equaly

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      I think there’s a number of reasons, but a couple contributing are probably:

      1. They’re actually a lot closer in views to republicans than they are those who are even a little “left” and whether they tend to be all that conscious of it or not, it can be a system shock when they hear where people are drawing a line. I mean, I saw someone online in one place I go, who said words to the effect of they love the democratic party, but they need to do better. I could not even begin to imagine using the word “love” anywhere near the democratic party myself, unless it was like “love the thought of them not being a party anymore.”

      2. They get told in the media to blame “the left” and “3rd party voters” for election losses rather than being told to take responsibility for failing to court those voters.

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      Maybe a consistency / identity thing. They need to feel that voting matters in their bourgeois democracy, and they align a part of their identity around “good citizen voter”. The majority of people who don’t vote because they (rightly) realize it doesn’t change the price of bread, are seen as enemies and heretics to that near religious conviction.