• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    I’m reading An Indigenous Peoples’ History of the United States and I’m struck with how basically identical US settlers and Israeli settlers are - it’s very clear they’re both part of the same joint imperial project when you look at the behavior of 1800s settlers.

    It’s like Israelis are time travelers, it’s really incredible how similar they are in their language and behavior and actions.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Yeh. They’ve very self-consciously a european settler-colonial movement. They’ve always been very open and clear about that going all the way back to Herzl.

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      Half of the “anti Zionism is anti semitism” arguments basically boils down to “all these other nations got to do what we are doing and no one stopped them, why do you care now?”

      Its true, settler-colonialism isn’t new and has been successful in the past. But how Zionists ignore 200 years of historical and political development is truely astounding, not to mention all of the ethical qualms that they somehow justified to themselves. I guess they think they can just force back the clock on this one genocide with the US hegemon’s support.

  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Chanting “Free Palestine” at an event dedicated to Native American suffering is one of the most disgusting things you can do

    thinky-felix wonder how that rate that next to the genocide of Palestinians?

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      I dont strictly like doing them, but its because I get stage fright, and feel shame about my history, its something I have had to practice in the mirror

      I think youre joking, but you should reconsider your position, and see our comrades comment

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        Yeah it’s actually good to do land acknowledgements, and it’s good they’re doing one. You should do them too. I hate to break it to you but we’re not in a revolutionary phase right now, but a consciousness-raising phase.

        Land acknowledgements aren’t something dreamed up by white liberals who want to expunge their guilt. They’re an indigenous tradition that indigenous radicals (at least where I live) practice when talking between themselves. In the context of asking colonizers to do them it’s never been considered enough to just do a land acknowledgement as if by doing so you’re purchasing the moral right to continue occupying. It’s a destabilizing statement that a) forces the person speaking to know a single gd thing about the indigenous people whose land you occupy and b) acknowledges out loud that the land was taken without permission, which believe it or not is where we’re at in terms of convincing settlers that there’s actually a problem.

        crossposting our comrades comment here

    • Sphere [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      It costs basically nothing, allows libs–particularly white ones–to pat themselves on the back for being part of Team Good™, and injects a small amount of positive coverage of the administration into the news cycle. Plus it’s an entirely irrelevant issue to current day politics to the point that not even many right-wingers would particularly disagree with it.

      Obviously it’s deeply insufficient in terms of addressing any of the actual harms done, but you have to dive fairly deep to find any media coverage of that, and even then it consists pretty much solely of quoting Native American groups saying as much.

  • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    It’s 2048. The resistance has failed and for the last 15 years Gaza and the West bank has simply been part of Israel. A crying president mayo Pete is standing at a podium in front of the four seasons Rafah. “The government has never apologized for our part in what happened here. We apologize. We’re sorry.”

    A distant voice cries out:

    “End the genocide in Korea”

    All the attendees turn towards the voice and point shrieking

    “Diissssresppeectrrtfullll”

    Thankfully this can not happen as the resistance will succeed and the entity will collapse.