• Cleggory@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    You demand hand holding and spoon feeding.

    You would never be a useful ally, but I’m sure you will serve the status quo establishment well.

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      2 months ago

      You are correct. Contrarianism does not require allies.

      Allies are needed for people who have plans of action, something you lack.

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        2 months ago

        He has concepts of a plan lmao

        Seriously though, fuck the two party system. Vote blue in 2024 and then work to enact ranked choice voting. That’s a start. There are a lot of things we need to change (e.g., gerrymandering, corporate capture, legal bribery, insider trading in Congress) but those things will never happen when both parties maintain the status quo.

        Yes, both parties. Dems play lip service and then don’t do much outside the norm. (To be fair, Republicans don’t even pay lip service.) We need actually progressive Congresspeople/POTUS in Washington, and that’s not happening without abolishing first past the post.

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          No. Not both parties.

          It’s crazy that people like you say that after Roe was struck down. I didn’t like Hillary Clinton, but the idea that she would nominate conservative justices that would strike down Roe is nonsense.

          And Kamala Harris isn’t planning to march brown and queer people into camps. Trump and his people are.

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            Sure, there are some things the parties disagree on. That’s what they use to sow division and keep the system in place. But I listed four things that both parties engage in. These are just some examples of norms that are terrible for our democracy but that will not go away so long as we have this current voting system.

            You asked for a plan, here it is: vote blue when you have to but the work does not stop at voting. Get in contact with grassroots organizations and make an actual difference. Or we can just tell people to vote blue every four years and wonder why Americans don’t feel represented in government.

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              2 months ago

              “Some things” being a the end of legal abortion the last time and a planned genocide of two groups of people this time.

              You are really glossing over that. I guess you come from a position of privilege.

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                2 months ago

                You’re really good at sticking to your point and ignoring all else. I’ve reiterated twice now but you’re clearly going to keep ignoring. (While also being sanctimonious.) I’ve already said we have to vote blue, what more do you want? Just to argue?

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                  2 months ago

                  Because my point is really fucking important and you’re just dismissing it.

                  Expecting me to just move past what I said because you don’t think it’s important is silly. You do not control a two-sided discussion.

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              Let us know when you come up with any. I’m guessing the world won’t be holding its collective breath for you to be of any help.

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                2 months ago

                If you think a plan for human salvation can fit in a forum comment, I don’t think you should risk any damage holding your breath for long.

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                  2 months ago

                  I see no indication of empathy or compassion from your collective statements. Only contempt and contrarianism and a lot of ego.

                  Human salvation? I don’t believe you have a plan of any length to help anyone, anywhere, save yourself.

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                    2 months ago

                    With armchair psychologists of your caliber available at all hours, how are licensed professionals still in business?

                    Somehow you are able to evaluate total strangers’ capacities for empathy and compassion from a few forum comments, it’s an incredible ability and you deserve whatever size ego you enjoy from it.

                    You haven’t laid out any meaningful or useful plans yet, so do I have to pretend your words still hold meaning by your logic?