Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
Btw, this was your boy Ryti’s end goal from the indisputable military alliance only a fucking liar would argue wasn’t a thing with 100k-200k Nazis attacking from Finnish territory:
So you brought up the Tripartite Alliance in a discussion about Finland, contrasting the Tripartite Alliance with the accusation towards the Soviets having done the exact same thing as the Finns, in order to show…
… what, again?
The Tripartite Pact was an alliance, the black fascists agreed on mutual defense terms. Molotov-Ribbentrop was painting new lines on a map and agreeing on trade and, as mentioned, literally no credible experts view it otherwise.
You’re the one who falsely claimed the Soviets and Axis had an alliance. I pointed to what actual alliances are, since you seemed to be confused by the idea.
You’re absolutely right. The Soviets actively pursuing the destruction of a sovereign nation by cooperating with the literal fucking Nazis, in the interest of the Soviet Union’s desire to quite literally genocide the Polish people, not unlike the Nazis, isn’t really comparable to the Finns cooperating with the literal fucking Nazis to retake territory that was seized and ethnically cleansed from them.
The Finnish choice is unforgivable, but you’re right, the Soviet choice was much worse. On account of being an active pursuit of genocide as well as an instrument to the Nazi genocide.
Soviet Russian chauvinism in the context of pan-Slavism was many things, but it wasn’t genocidal towards Poles as an ethnicity. Murderous towards anyone that might be able to rally resistance, certainly, and it exploited ethnic divides in the time honored tradition of any colonizing power, but it wasn’t anything like Generalplan Ost and you know it.
Russian chauvinism in the context of pan-Slavism was many things, but it wasn’t genocidal towards Poles as an ethnicity.
Oh yes, the Sovs just executed 100,000 Poles in the USSR in '38, and killed and deported another million and a half in Poland itself in 39-41 because they were uninterested in genocide. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
but it wasn’t anything like Generalplan Ost and you know it.
Oh, cool, the Holodomor wasn’t anything like Generalplan Ost either, so I guess the Holodomor wasn’t genocidal either.
No, because the Holodomor and eradication of the Crimean Tartars were specific eradication campaigns unlike the Soviet mass executions in Poland, glad we cleared that up.
Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
I literally said as much in my very first comment. It’s not my fault you’re falling over yourself to bootlick Soviet tag-teaming genocide with the Nazis because, I don’t know, Finns bad or something. Apparently two things can’t be bad at once.
Finland is slightly better than the Soviet Union in that their Nazi collaboration was in response to a mass campaign of ethnic cleansing (of almost half a million Finns expelled by the Soviets after the unjustified aggression of the Winter War) rather than preceded by a mass campaign of ethnic cleansing (of Poles in the USSR by the Soviets before the joint Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland). Both remain unconscionable.
I’ll be real with you, I argued with ten different shitlibs that allying with Nazi Germany was Bad so I missed your qualifying statement at the end of your three innaccurate and misleading claims.
And if you’d talked about their actual ethnic cleansing campaigns you’d have a point, or if it was a point worth bringing up at all in this context of deliberately helping the execution of Generalplan Ost.
You mean like how… the Soviets deliberately helped the execution of Generalplan Ost in assisting Nazi Germany to take massive amounts of Polish lebensraum with plentiful amounts of untermensch for them to massacre?
Are you arguing that Stalin was deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the USSR by agreeing to partition a country the Nazis needed no help to conquer?
Do you think you can only have one alliance?
Actual clown shit bro. Just admit they helped the Nazis and that That Was Bad Even If Not Quite As Bad As The Axis Proper.
Btw, this was your boy Ryti’s end goal from the indisputable military alliance only a fucking liar would argue wasn’t a thing with 100k-200k Nazis attacking from Finnish territory:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland
So you brought up the Tripartite Alliance in a discussion about Finland, contrasting the Tripartite Alliance with the accusation towards the Soviets having done the exact same thing as the Finns, in order to show…
… what, again?
You’re the one who falsely claimed the Soviets and Axis had an alliance. I pointed to what actual alliances are, since you seemed to be confused by the idea.
We both know you’re too smart to actually believe the situations are comparable.
You’re absolutely right. The Soviets actively pursuing the destruction of a sovereign nation by cooperating with the literal fucking Nazis, in the interest of the Soviet Union’s desire to quite literally genocide the Polish people, not unlike the Nazis, isn’t really comparable to the Finns cooperating with the literal fucking Nazis to retake territory that was seized and ethnically cleansed from them.
The Finnish choice is unforgivable, but you’re right, the Soviet choice was much worse. On account of being an active pursuit of genocide as well as an instrument to the Nazi genocide.
Soviet Russian chauvinism in the context of pan-Slavism was many things, but it wasn’t genocidal towards Poles as an ethnicity. Murderous towards anyone that might be able to rally resistance, certainly, and it exploited ethnic divides in the time honored tradition of any colonizing power, but it wasn’t anything like Generalplan Ost and you know it.
Oh yes, the Sovs just executed 100,000 Poles in the USSR in '38, and killed and deported another million and a half in Poland itself in 39-41 because they were uninterested in genocide. Brilliant. Just brilliant.
Oh, cool, the Holodomor wasn’t anything like Generalplan Ost either, so I guess the Holodomor wasn’t genocidal either.
No, because the Holodomor and eradication of the Crimean Tartars were specific eradication campaigns unlike the Soviet mass executions in Poland, glad we cleared that up.
I literally said as much in my very first comment. It’s not my fault you’re falling over yourself to bootlick Soviet tag-teaming genocide with the Nazis because, I don’t know, Finns bad or something. Apparently two things can’t be bad at once.
Where the fuck is your reading comprehension?
Wherever you keep your intellectual honesty in this comment chain started by revisionist nationalism.
So you have no actual response to the fact that your statement of
is based off the fact that you couldn’t be arsed to read what I’ve said because you were tripping over your own shoes to deepthroat a Soviet jackboot?
“Just admit to the very first thing you said”. Fuck’s sake.
I’ll be real with you, I argued with ten different shitlibs that allying with Nazi Germany was Bad so I missed your qualifying statement at the end of your three innaccurate and misleading claims.
Ah yes, inaccurate or misleading claims like [checks notes] easily verifiable campaigns of genocide by the Soviets?
And if you’d talked about their actual ethnic cleansing campaigns you’d have a point, or if it was a point worth bringing up at all in this context of deliberately helping the execution of Generalplan Ost.
You mean like how… the Soviets deliberately helped the execution of Generalplan Ost in assisting Nazi Germany to take massive amounts of Polish lebensraum with plentiful amounts of untermensch for them to massacre?
Are you arguing that Stalin was deliberately helping the plans for the Nazi conquest of the USSR by agreeing to partition a country the Nazis needed no help to conquer?