agreed, I have found that interacting with content here has been more meaningful and the interactions to be more welcoming. Happy weekend to you!

I completely agree! And I don’t think we’ve really started to see people leave reddit yet, that’ll happen when the 3PAs stop working

Agreed. So much less noise.

I do expect that it will taper off eventually and then drop for a bit before leveling out (not being pessimistic, it’s just a simple fact that much of the current growth of Lemmy, or for that matter kbin or other reddit alternatives, is due to people leaving reddit, and eventually everyone that wants to leave who is willing to consider this place will have come over, so the growth will stop or at least revert to a more “normal” pace, and not everyone will end up liking Lemmy, and so there will be some fraction of people that don’t stay long once the hype over people moving from reddit has died down). However, it should still stabilize somewhere much higher than things were before the migration, so my hope is that it gets enough momentum that the number of people that remain when this incident is over is enough to sustain a functional community.

I’m getting that feeling too.

What part of 98SE made you feel like it was that much different from 95, outside of being slightly less buggy?

Man I came here to post this LOL

From my experience it’s just not showing on your end but after a while it updates the votes

Sometimes the site goes a little buggy. Sometimes i get 503 but i just wait, refresh, or i heard someone say too they have lemmy and kbin account and use the other when one is down xD I think it’s still adjusting to having so many users

Same

Haven’t experienced any real bugs yet on here, but 90% of the time when a website is not working as expected for me, switching to firefox fixes it.

Are we allowing emojis here? If so just another reason for people to flee Reddit

The most important is to keep up the momentum. Users don’t mean anything if there’s no content. We all need to keep posting stuff and keep actively disucsing stuff!

I would argue that depends entirely in which context you use the word “mature” haha.

To be honest, the fact that such immature software is capable of being a viable alternative to one of the biggest websites on the internet is already super impressive.

Let’s see where we will head in a couple of years.

That’s what I love about it, though. The fact that it is still maturing means that we as a community have a say on how Lemmy will evolve.

These are all valid complaints, but I feel like you need to put this into perspective. This platform has blown up in the last week, change is going to come but it’s going to take some time. I’m sure it will go faster now that it is really taking off though.

These concerns are valid.

Some are transitory however - 1, 3 and 4 all reflect the current state of Lemmy and the similar Kbin are in currently. The Reddit issues were unexpected and people have migrated en masse to Lemmy/Kbin and have found was is in many ways Alpha software. This issues will mostly be resolved with time, and that is probably accelerated now as more people means more people interested in development, and motivated by anger at Reddit. I don’t think Lemmy/Kbin will replace Reddit right now, but I think a new trajectory has been set. Communities are hitting critical mass to keep growing.

Look at Mastodon, it’s at 1.2m-2m active users each month; it is still small fry and niche compared to Twitter but it exploded thanks to Twitter’s mess, and is growing. I think we’re seeing something similar with Lemmy and Kbin, but this is just the start of a long road and an expanded community will accelerate improvement and growth.

But point 2 is fundamental to the fediverse - fragmentation due to defederating could be a concern. I get Beehaw’s motivation but I think their actions will consign them to a niche part of the Fediverse, but that may be what they want. Ultimately I suspect the biggest servers will dominate a main interconnected fediverse through sheer size and notoriety - new servers will need to federate to the big players to grow. It’s not necessairly a bad thing - but people may end up signed up to a “main” large interconnected “fediverse” and separately to smaller niche communities they’re interested in but sitting in their own walled gardens/bubbles. It’s not necessairly a bad thing though - it is just different to what people are used to with social media like Reddit. It’ll be a trade off - servers and communities have complete independence and some will go for what suits them - part of a big fediverse or only federating to smaller aligned communities.

I am quite confident that the platform will go up in quality quick. Here is why I am confident:

GitHub Lemmy Activity Pulse (LemmyNet / lemmy)

A lot of these issues are temporary. Also, this is all happening very fast, it’s entirely possible that some other website/service will pop up that’ll be a lot better thought out.

Reddit was already well established and functional during the Exodus of Digg, so there wasn’t much discussion about where to go. Today we have no solid alternative, so people are trying Lemmy, Kbin, Mastodon, Squabbles and other websites.

you can’t even tap on a post/comment reply in your inbox to go to that comment’s permalink and view the context.

You can, but only in the latest version. It takes multiple taps, though.

undefined> what happens when instances start shutting down due to being unable to keep up with server hosting costs?

Well idk about you guys but self hosting is always an option. Not easy, but an option

On 4, what’s up with this? Being fixed?

Server costs are not as high as Reddit made us believe. You can probably run a 10 user instance for less than 10€/month.

If the instance is good donations could keep it up forever, not even expensive donations. Certainly a fraction of what reddit is asking for reddit premium.

I think the best way to judge success is to look at the overall engagement and that one is very high.

You could probably find some ways to get a few of em but i don’t know.
You shouldn’t really need more than one or two accounts tho. Talking from kbin :)

Yeah, if I’m anything to go by, you’d need to divide these figures by at least three to get to the number of new people. Still, it’s not a bad start.

Right

No kidding, I definitely prefer the lemmy experience. Obviously needs some polish, it’ll come. (once again guilting myself into digging into the code)

When one door closes another Opens lol

This, methinks we have a wondrous opportunity to develop something just better.

I’m commenting to boost engagement!

Thanks Obama

Same. Lemmy can only get better. Reddit, I’m not sure.

Currently on the $1/month patron tier for lemmy. Hope it helps the devs!

This is the way

I would like it if lemmy had near the numbers of reddit

I wouldn’t. People need to get away from the notion that more users = better. With more users comes trolls, bad faith actors, etc. Quality over quantity.

Which is a good point to remember I think. Having the community grow is good for people using lemmy as it allows smaller, more niche communities to have enough people interested in that thing to actually functionally exist, but at the end of the day it doesn’t have to have the same number of users as reddit to be usable for you. Once enough people are here to be usable (which depending on what kind of communities you use, it may already be), it doesn’t really much matter how much bigger lemmy gets. After all, it isn’t some company where the point is growth at all costs.

I’m definitely sticking around. I agree.