Asked how many members of the House of Reps there were, Stein guessed 600

“Asked how many members of the House of Reps there were, Stein guessed 600-some before hosts corrected her.”

  • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Framing this as only a small group of voters in swing states is stupid. No candidate can win with just a few million votes scattered across a handful of states.

    You are taking something very minor and turning it into a major problem. Its like saying Hilary would have won if not for the last minute news reports about her emails or whatever it was, when she lost because she didnt appeal widely enough to the american people, and carried an awful attitude while doing it.

    • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      You’re not getting my point. I’m not saying someone can win with just a handful of voters from swing states, I’m saying that someone can stop another candidate from winning by courting those voters. Hence, a spoiler.

      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        Sure that could happen, but then you never had those voters. At some point you have to lay the blame at the people who voted like this, if it happens.

        This is like saying that getting a question wrong on a test can be the difference between pass and fail, and then picking a question at random and deciding to focus on that instead of the whole test.

        You are right it could be enough people to match the difference in votes, but thats not the same as saying its essential we get that voter block no matter what. Theres a ton of things that make a difference, but its the collection of them that makes a candidate.

        • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          Your test analogy kind of proves the point, though. Say you have a 10 question test and 8 are very easy, and the last 2 are very difficult. In general, if you’ve done your homework, you should get most of the first 8. Whether or not you get a really good grade will depend more on the last 2. I think both parties are guilty of assuming they’ll get the first 8 correct no problem, but there is a tactically sound reason to focus on the last 2.

          • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            I’d argue they focus too little on the first 8 and too much on the last 2. Both would be an error in analysis of course.

            Also it runs the risk of people applying statistics to individual cases, or groups too small to be statistically relevant.

            • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              I agree with you - and that’s why gerrymandering is a problem, because it makes the last 2 questions more valuable to study for. As for statistics, that’s for pollsters and analysts to work on.

                • sensiblepuffin@lemmy.world
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                  2 months ago

                  Because a good chunk of the population doesn’t understand what it is and why it’s bad, and a serious percentage of politicians benefit from it.

                  • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                    2 months ago

                    Are you saying its essentially a thing Republicans don’t know about or understand? I have to assume every democrat has heard the word, and it has simple explanations too.

                    I was under the impression republicans knee but defended it but it could be an ignorance thing, thats a fair point.