What’d y’all think of the debate?

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        Honestly surprised at how toned down his supporters are lately. Even in my own extended family etc.

        Normally they would have been all over the place with his defeat, making excuses etc.

        Now it’s sort of silent. Unless it’s just me not being on social media anymore, that could be it.

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          Its what happens after a defeat, we see it in failed workers movements where humiliation shuts them down for a long time. Another strong man will take trumps place and we’ll see the same cycle again though…

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            Well hopefully not the same level of insanity and unmasked, unapologetic public bigotry and racism… but… yeah.

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    2 months ago

    Kinda weird how sometimes he was debating the moderators instead of Harris. Of course, only fact checking Trump was expected.

    But all in all, both are shit choices.

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      2 months ago

      It seems like a compromise could have been that he not lie claiming immigrants are eating dogs and doctors are killing babies after birth.

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            Providing proof that an incident happened, multiple times, is drinking kool-aid? Sounds more like someone had their head in the sand and would rather ignore these disturbing acts.

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              Reading a Heritage Foundation propaganda outlet and uncritically believing everything in it is drinking Kool-Aid, yes. “Disturbing acts” like proving an unviable fetus with the same terminal care a human would receive, oh no.

              It is unconscionable that regressives want to use unwilling women for medical equipment or prevent willing women with unviable fetuses from receiving lifesaving medical care. Those are the disturbing acts.

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                Reading a Heritage Foundation propaganda outlet and uncritically believing everything in it is drinking Kool-Aid, yes.

                Are you disputing the Minnesota Department of Health report?

                “Disturbing acts” like proving an unviable fetus with the same terminal care a human would receive, oh no.

                Strange you seemed to miss the reports that showed some babies were left to die with no care.

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                  I’m disputing Daily Signal, no point in reading it. If you have MDH reports you could link that directly.

                  “Babies,” “left to die,” with “no care.” Kool-Aid.

                  Meanwhile you want policies to force unwilling people into slavery carrying a fetus. That’s pretty rape-y, but your leader is a rapist, so no surprise there.

                  What is surprising is you are whining about being left to die with no care but fully supporting people who want to give birth instead bleeding out because they are refused medical care.

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      we can fact check Harris, i mean if Harris made any bold lies we could then say it was unfair?
      and considering the stupidity of that lie about eating pets and how he got it from tv should we leave it up there to be perpetuated. anyway i will leave you with something from our conservative hero, facts dont care about your feelings :P

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      Kamala lied about so much. It was insane. Yet they never called her out on it.

      No real policy. Just stupid statements backed by lies. I’m just a middle class girl. lol. No, no you were not.

      I am impressed she didn’t cackle even once.

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        can you list a few lies in the debate from Harris? not that i don’t believe you. just haven’t followed her enough to scrutinize.

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          Sure Donald Trump has filed bankruptcy six times. That’s false. Donald Trump had filed bankruptcy zero times. The fine people comment was false. She denied wanting to defund the police. She denied her stance on fracking. She was full of shit the whole night.

          Ironically I support her real stance on fracking. It’s an important issue to me. Fracking is a horrible practice that needs to stop

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              Bankruptcy is a legal matter. Either a person files or they don’t.

              I also wouldn’t shame someone for filing.

              Much less would I shame a business person for filing against their business if needed.

              Sure Kamala has never filed a BK on a business but she’s never ran a business. She’s never created jobs.

              Dislike Trump all you want but has created thousands of jobs. Kamala zero.

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                The statement is true, per the specifications I allowed. I never indicated any value assessment as you focused on. That’s not the point

                Edit, to address the goalpost move: as a DA she certainly would have been in charge of staffing an office and had many humans in jobs. More than zero. So that’s not true

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                  She didn’t create those jobs. she didn’t run a p/l. The money didn’t come from her but from the state of California or the county depending on which job she did. The tax payers paid for those jobs.

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            it came off to me that her opinion had changed on fracking, being a politician in America is not won through honesty. inverters must see you as profitable, money is in oil. i have heard Donaald has filed bankruptcy i had to make sure and looked it up i’d like to see your source on this.

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              He has had companies filed bankruptcy. He has never filed. The two are not the same.

              If she had take the anti-fracking stance. I’d make me strongly consider my vote. Fracking taints the ground water. To me that’s just stupid.

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                For a politician to take the stance of anti fracking would be political suicide. Thanks to Republicans money is speech , its become an incestuous game.

                Would you say Harris’s lie is as bold as trumps? One is splitting hairs the other is a fairy tail that is made to create division.

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                  Not really; most Democrats would support a ban on fracking. At this point, never Trumpers would support the ban to stop Trump.

                  While I strongly dislike Harris, having clean water is important to me. Once you have contaminated the ground water, you are left with few options.

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    I think neither of them did a good job.

    I would say there was no winner but the Americans lost In that debate