• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        In Polish: “It will be moral victory” and i’m not shitting you, this is how our media and to some extent even historians are portraying each of our myriad L’s.

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      The western public will look at the headline, that is the extent of their attention span, and cheer over the fact that the article must mean that Russia is surrendering.

      In the interview, Zelensky said there can’t be direct negotiations between Ukraine and Russia but there could be indirect negotiations through a third party.

      I know that diplomacy is not exactly his background, but it should be fairly obvious to anyone that a requirement of negotiation is that you are actually willing to talk to the people you are intended to negotiate with. This is this crazy international relations theory we call “common sense”.

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        On the other hand, if Zelenskyy negotiates peace directly, the next NATO-proxy government will just throw it out because his presidency is illegitimate. Which could be used to buy the time the Kiev regime has been looking for. Seems to be why Russia recently said they are open to peace talks, but consider trusting Ukraine to be impossible.

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          This is true, I honestly don’t know how you can negotiate with nato/western forces in good faith at all anymore. Even outside of Ukraine, they’ve shown that they don’t place any value in their word (see: Germany admitting they never had any intention of honouring the Minsk Agreements). That kind of admission severely tarnishes any future diplomatic overtures.

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            Just in the last few years, looking at the deliberate efforts of cutting off all diplomatic relations with Russia. Banning and smearing all foreign opposition media. Assassination of diplomats. Rampant militarized racism. Trade wars. Mass sanctioning and coups of any nation who opposes US war interests. Endlessly blocking UN efforts. Endlessly blocking hostage negotiations. Constant escalations… It really establishes that the US and it’s allies have completely lost interest in any form of diplomacy and seem to be preemptively closing those exits just to keep any form of diplomatic resolution off the table, thus ensuring a hot world war to keep the military economy running.