Every liberal does it too, from center right radlibs to far-right “conservatives”: the most extreme right fringe liberals hate the mainstream liberals for not being bigoted enough, the mainstream libs hate the radlibs for not being cruel enough, and the radlibs hate the left for not being chauvinist enough.

Denouncing chauvinism in particular is like a liberal moral event horizon, a cardinal sin against their self-interested belief in the righteousness of the imperial hegemon that keeps the treats flowing at gunpoint.

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              It really is incredible how they always out themselves as liberals as soon as this particular topic comes up. Suddenly they’re all about civility and appealing to the masses and anti-“extremism”

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                Yes, because the discussion was liberals reacting to others “being good” in a way that makes them feel uncomfortable and enrages them. “You goofus jfc lol.”

                EDIT: Also, according to you, apparently bringing up veganism in the first place is the “goofus” thing to do. That isn’t quite the own you apparently think it is.

                • That sounds a lot more like the libs who would rather attack their own comrades on main before retreating to c/vegan than do any real praxis

                  You clearly weren’t here for the struggle session otherwise you would have seen the vegan side downplay the Holocaust, slavery and r*pe and you would have seen the week preceding the struggle session where they were all “dog diet” posting

                  Let’s just say dog diet posting wasn’t about feeding your dog a vegan diet, they also claimed it wasn’t racist because it was started by an Asian guy as if that made any of it better. The cardinal sin was that the posting wasn’t even funny or creative, it was just shock value garbage they used to bully the rest of the userbase and worst of all not one of them even made a single joke about eating Joe Biden’s dogs, now that shit would have been funny

                  I have nothing against Vegans or Veganism but I was raised Vegan by stupid antivax hippy libs, the shitty diet I was raised on caused a bunch of health issues some of which I’m still dealing with to this day. I genuinely consider the diet I was raised on to be just as abusive (if not more so) than the lack of vaccination.

                  Any time I’ve posted anything about this the mods delete it and I’ve been cool with it but for some reason you guys just really want to restart this struggle session and if I need to post my fucking medical records to get the mods to believe I’m telling the truth about my lived experience and not trolling, so be it I’ll dox myself if I have to

                  If any of you want to try to tell me that my dumbass parents are better communists than any of the so called carnists here just because they eat more beans, I might literally die laughing

                  I already got out of that cult, no amount of bullying will drag me back and I mean that literally, Veganism is a religion even if it isn’t a very organized one

                  I think hexbear should be a welcoming and inviting place for vegan comrades, emphasis on comrades, but we shouldn’t be a Vegan site any more than we should be a Christian site or a Muslim site

                  Expecting this to get deleted, can’t say I care anymore

                  The sadest thing is, all I’ve ever wanted to do is help the Vegans of Hexbear. I have 2 decades of experience being Vegan, I know some of the pitfalls and I would love to share what I know but no one wants to hear it from a bloodmouth carnist traitor

                  Call me a lib if you like but I’ll never be as much of an idealist or a lib as the folks who think that one scene from Scott Pilgrim was real

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          does have some kernel of truth where being civil builds solidarity and wins people over

          Who decides where the line of civility is and who prevents that line from mysteriously drifting toward favoring the status quo and its default positions?

          instead of just screaming at them and then getting ignored

          That line I just mentioned being arbitrarily drawn? It’s already being drawn, by you, here.

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      civility for thee: geordi-no

      civility for me: geordi-yes

      we can’t tell the libs not to expect civility from us and then flip the script when the shoe is on the other foot. same as we tell the libs: look past the aesthetics to the actual content.