That said, I voted for him in the last election, and I will again out of harm reduction. He has improved on policy, but l even if he didn’t, the American people do not get a vote on whether or not to elect a senile President this cycle.

You can have any President you like, as long as he’s senile. If you vote, we’ll get a senile President. If you don’t, we’ll get a senile President.

The question is whether you want senile and gleefully cruel®, or just senile(D). I’ll take just senile.

screm-aAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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    The choices are not cruel vs senile, they’re:

    whywhywhywhywhy child emperor controlled by obama-drone advisors

    a-little-trolling child emperor controlled by mission-accomplished advisors

    maybe-later-honey healthcare isn’t on the table this election General dynamics needs more money to get ukranians and palestinians vaporized

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    It’s amazing that these fuckos haven’t picked up on Biden’s gleeful cruelty. It has been on display his entire career. In the 2020 campaign he was threatening voters to their faces and sneering at them when they told him they wanted to vote for him but were worried about something he didn’t care about.

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    One of them linked the Wikipedia article about Perot’s campaign and I learned something new:

    Exit polls revealed that 35% of voters would have voted for Perot if they believed he could win. Contemporary analysis reveals that Perot could have won the election if the polls prior to the election had shown the candidate with a larger share, preventing the wasted vote mindset. Notably, had Perot won that potential 35% of the popular vote, he would have carried 32 states with 319 electoral votes, more than enough to win the presidency.

    That is so wild to me, I had no idea he had been that successful and that it was only Wasted Vote Mindset that stopped him.

    It reminds me that there was a Perot bumper sticker on the telephone pole outside my childhood home:

    Ross Will Win
    WITH YOUR VOTE!

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      it was only Wasted Vote Mindset that stopped him

      and a concerted media campaign to fabricate that consensus mindset. what a wacky election, i can’t imagine a perot presidency. bush sr had the full backing of the cia, of course, and clinton was clearly acceptable, but perot was against the gulf war and what eventually became the rules based order we find ourselves in. he was too much of a liability to imperial ambitions, i think they would have pulled additional shenanigans to prevent him from being elected.

      but this election could be wackier. what happens when enough people think their vote is wasted no matter what?

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        I honestly think that Perot (whose politics outside of his anti-war stance are just as idiotic and self-serving as every other politicians) gave the DNC and the RNC enough of a scare to lock everything down and ensure that a third party would never even taste national election success again.

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    It’s these useful idiots that prevent a 3rd party from being viable continuing to give life support and consent to existing hellworld.

    We need to do the same thing over and over really expect nothing fundemental to change. Way to hold the genocidal line fuckers.

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    So they don’t think that financing a genocide qualify as being “gleefully cruel”? What an interesting opinion .

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    I’m sorry but anyone that actually watched the debate could see Trump had a working brain and Biden did not. Trying to claim that one is as senile as the other is going to get you laughed at. People saw with their eyes, and they will see a second time with their eyes if Biden doesn’t run from the second debate.

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      Trump doesn’t even have a working brain. It’s just Biden is so absolutely gone that he makes Trump look healthy in comparison. Trump has been rambling absolute nonsense and braging about all the dementia tests he has taken for the past decade.

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          Akshually this is exactly why you should vote for him because that mean that hypothetically he could choose not to do evil which totally makes a difference even if he continue the genocide anyway

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        Just 4 more years guys! We totally won’t tell you that you have to vote blue again next election like we did for every single past elections. not mad

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            You can condescendingly repeat a premade phrase implying that it doesn’t need to be demonstrated all you want, but I haven’t seen any evidence that Biden is not just as bad as Trump, on the contrary.

            In fact, the very fact that you are talking about “Biden being better that Trump” as if it was so obvious that you don’t need to provide evidence is a big red flag (pun unintended). It indicate that you really need to question that belief of yours and look into why you are so convinced of it to the point you consider it obvious and check what evidences are actually saying.

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    You’d think people would be accusing us of wanting a senile president. After all, is it not better for the rest of the world if the president of the great satan can’t remember what he was talking about 10 minutes ago?

    Or is it an admission that who the president is doesn’t actually fucking matter if Biden can still be elected?

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      Or is it an admission that who the president is doesn’t actually fucking matter if Biden can still be elected?

      I’ve legitimately seen people say this as a reason to vote for Biden, even someone I know irl. I don’t even know how to respond to it, like, any semblance of democracy is just completely dead at that point.

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        I’ve legitimately seen people say this as a reason to vote for Biden

        Yeah that’s kind of a bizarre take to have because it’s explicitly saying you’d prefer Biden’s unelected gang of advisors over Trump’s unelected gang of advisors. Maybe the president the individual can be convinced to support good things every once in a while if enough people get him on a good mood on a topic he has an emotional connection to. But you certainly can’t push the executive branch as a whole in any way shape or form.