• MindTraveller@lemmy.ca
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    6 months ago

    If you don’t like Trump, why do you keep defending him by calling him a child and a narcissist? Why do you keep putting the role of victim on him when he’s a rapist and a Nazi? Trump is not a child, he’s responsible for his actions. And he’s not a narcissist, his actions are not the result of queerness or disability. He is a neurotypical, heterosexual, adult man. He is a privileged, powerful, bigoted individual. Erasing his privilege and trying to paint him as a vulnerable minority is inexcusable.

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      6 months ago

      Okay… you’re not getting it and I’m not a fan of exercising futility. So let’s call it a day.

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        6 months ago

        I understand that you think you’re dunking on Trump, but that’s not what your actions are. You don’t seem to grasp the fact that accusing a Nazi of being a minority isn’t a dunk.

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          6 months ago

          You understand that you’re not the authority on what a “dunk” is.

          Just walk away from this. It’s pointless. We’re done.

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        6 months ago

        Well asexuals are widely recognised as queer and hardly anyone who has the faintest political literacy is against them. It’s not like Fox News is going after them like they go after gay and trans people, so when someone is aphobic they’re generally considered absolutely ridiculous by the kinds of people who use Lemmy. And calling Trump asexual would seem to imply that he’s not a rapist and serial sexual assaulter, which he absolutely is. I’m never going to stand for somebody calling Trump asexual.

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          6 months ago

          Ok, but how is calling someone a narcissist a defense?

          Are you under the bizarre impression that ‘narcissist’ is a synonym for ‘asexual?’

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            Yeah, it’s based on the Greek character Narcissus, who was hated for being asexual. One of the incels he rejected prayed to Nemesis to make him fall in love with that which he cannot have, so she made him fall in love with his reflection so he’d starve to death. It’s a story about how Greek culture was aphobic. They didn’t understand asexuality and attributed not wanting to fuck anyone to hubris. So if you call someone a narcissist, you’re saying they have an asexuality motivated by pride. Which is honestly aphobic and disgusting nonsense.

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                6 months ago

                Telling people that Trump is neurodivergent and his evil is caused by being disabled is also fucked up. It simultaneously garners sympathy for a fascist and villifies disabled people.

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                  And now you’re just being dishonest. He was called a narcissist, not someone with narcissistic personality disorder.

                  It’s not a crime to say you were wrong, you know.

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                    You’re the one who brought up NPD. If it’s not a slur against disabled people it’s a slur against asexuals. You’re completely ignoring the influence of Christopher Lasch’s book on pop culture vernacular.

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                No, I’m just trying to convince people that using slurs is a bad idea because if you do, you’ll be subjected to “banal whinging” about how slurs are bad. Thread top could have avoided all this by not using a slur, and nothing bad would have happened.

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                  It’s not a slur to call Trump anything you fucking want. Stop trying to police language. Punching up is ALWAYS acceptable. YOU brought up asexuality first. You’re the one with a problem.

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                    So, if someone were to call Trump a

                    Warning: hate speech

                    faggot ladyboy tranny autist r*tard orange-n****r

                    , you would 100% agree with this move and applaud the person describing Trump with these words?