Additional reading:
BBC Reporters, CBS News, and New York Times reporter who were actually in the city the day it happened who report mainstream news got it all wrong. BBC Source | CBS Source | NYTimes Source
Readings into what happened with the protests:
https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen
https://www.liberationnews.org/tiananmen-the-massacre-that-wasnt-2/
The cops in America literally use military gear on protestors. Unmarked vans literally grabbed people off of the street in 2020.
Yep, effectively just as bad, maybe not as dramatic w/o military and tanks. You assume because I question China I’m gung ho American power, this is an error in your thought.
An error in my thought? I was responding directly to something you asked:
They do this and that’s bad. Your “hypothetical” implies you didn’t think it was happening, so I pointed out it is happening. There are examples all throughout the last century in America: Kent State, when Reagan used the military to go around the air traffic control unions, the battle of Blair Mountain.
I’m anti state, every state. I don’t apologize for Kent State or anything else.
The reason why people here will say you’re apologizing for American actions is because we don’t equate China and the US on the basis of being states. We see the USA as far, far more harmful to the world, regardless if China has truly authentic socialist ideology in is government. I really think you’d agree to this.
It’s a valid ideological premise to be wary of states, sure. That’s fine, we can talk about the details of that after we organize a revolution.
I don’t think you’re a bad person or that you’re truly trying to defend the US. I think you’re just saying things that come across as rhetorically inauthentic because you’re repeating things we more closely connect to liberals.
The US is a far more violent state and it’s not even remotely close.
This person isn’t ready to engage honestly yet, so might as well leave it. There are plenty of thoughtful responses but the user only responds to ones that they can easily dismiss as “whataboutism” or say things like “i’m against every state” in some kind of weird all lives matter style…