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    I hate amazon as much as the next guy but the way this works is documented and well-known. The people who stored it there fucked up.

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      And if google dorks aren’t interesting enough, because google does not index enough public buckets for you, then we get to learn about gray hat warfare too :)

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        Allow me to introduce the often abused Computer Fraud and Misuse act: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act

        If you’d like to lose the ability to use ANY sort of technology for decades if not indefinitely, go ahead with the greyhat stuff.

        The sector of lawfully using your knowledge for good is ever expanding and pays well. I’d strongly advise using your powers for good and dodge any unnecessary risk if you enjoy doing what you do.

        9/10 times, it ain’t worth the risk. Being strategic and thinking things over carefully (err on the side of least action) is going to benefit you

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          My apologies, allow me to elaborate - grayhatwarfare.com is a cybersecurity company that crawls and indexes publicly-available blob stores, like s3 buckets, azure storage accounts, digital ocean spaces, and google cloud object stores. They offer limited search capabilities for free, no account-wall.

          They are a legitimate cybersecurity company, despite their name.

          My employer is working on a sensitive data scanning service, to alert clients in case their information surfaces in these buckets (even if they do not own the bucket), leveraging the grayhatwarfare api. In short, allowing us to detect and remediate the problem, which I hope you will agree is a white-hat activity :)

          I do not publicly condone breaking the law. I reserve the right to criticize the DMCA tho ;)

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      It all basically reads like fan-fic already tbh. Or maybe like… How do I explain it… These look like documents Cosplaying as top-secret information. They are LARP-ing as top-secret documents. For an alternate timeline.

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      Wait. It’s hosted on a Russian site or that’s your system language?

      I refuse to look myself and end up on a CIA list lol

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          They didn’t ask if Google was a Russian site, they asked if the PDF was hosted on a Russian site (which is a no, in site case)

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      What? You’re doubting the legitimacy of the top secret J.O.R.D.A.N. bill? What next, you’ll call the L.E.B.R.O.N. bill into question as well? I’m flabbergasted at your unending skepticism.

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      A lot of them look legit, mostly because they are boring. I scanned a few, it’s stuff like the air force’s memo on how to deal with press, or a memo alleging a number of Russian cybersecurity attacks on U.S. assets.

      If someone was going to fake releasing stuff like this, they probably wouldn’t do it with such boring documents, they’d put some shit about aliens in there.

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        Mmm. So I agree with your initial assessment, but the later rationale not so much

        Disinformation is the tool used by war today. Russia is doing A LOT of it as of late coming up on this election cycle and could easily push propaganda and fake news via channels like this.

        Similarly, and on the other side of this coin, the US could also do this to push propaganda. You cannot trust things for face value on the internet.

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          Again, if it was propoganda I think it would be more incendiary. You’re free to go through the information if you wish, and there probably are some juicy secrets somewhere in the mess of files, but my spotcheck made me yawn. If you don’t want to live in a world with no truth, you have to start thinking about the intent of the author. If the intent of the author here was to plant misinformation, or to sow division, then they did a terrible job at it. What little I read gave me no interest in reading more.

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            We’re on the same page here, I think it’s pretty likely that a lot of this stuff isn’t actually dangerous. Snowden leaks point out massive constructs to automatically read in info and essentially create a DB of intel

            And that was years ago. I find it highly unlikely that anything serious would slip through and go unnoticed on a search engine like google.

            Discord tho…

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        Boring does not mean legit. In fact, misinformation should look exactly like the real thing.

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        To be fair, the department of defence did have the $10 billion JEDI cloud contract that Amazon and Microsoft were fighting for a few years ago, so it’s not much of a stretch.

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    Not classified. Wouldn’t surprise me if you could find improperly stored proprietary info if you scrolled long enough but not from the US gov. Maybe for some private company that didnt pay for an IT dept though. Also taking a look at the docs, they look fake as fuck.

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    Well, to amazon credit, they only offer cloud services. If government officials are dumb enough to store confidential documents in webservers without any authentication, it’s not Amazon’s fault (also, assuming you find real documents, the fact they are indexed by google, means that those links are also stored on publicly accessible pages, like forums or link directories, that’s the only legit way it can be found by google crawlers; that’s double dumb)

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    Well I’ll be darned. Danged, even. Between this and Amazon price gouging existing customers, it feels as if something has happened behind the scenes.