It’s possible that the enforcement of a rate limit isn’t because of AI scraping, but rather because they failed to migrate before the June 30th deadline.
It’s so fucking funny how Twitter and Reddit are imploding on the exact same day lmao.
Spez did say Musk’s Twitter was something to be admired and emulated lol
They seem really aligned in their goals then!
End-of-quarter. Companies often make decisions quarter by quarter and 6/30 was the last day of Q2.
I always forget how important quarters are in the business world.
Yeah, You’d think they would care more about WHOLE dollars!
…I’ll just let myself out
Companies would rather cut their noses of in the end of a quarter, to claim a weight loss, than do something that would spell positive results for its lifetime…
50 Cent’s success as a business man suddenly starts making a lot more sense, eh?
Not to sound paranoid, but it’s kind of worrying.
In recent years, these sites have been used to pass information quickly during crisis. This can be anything like natural disaster, or uprising and protests.
These big aggregators being incompetently, mismanaged and taken down from public use at the same time, makes me wonder if it’s an attempt to quash communication that’s not coming from a government or mega-corp.
The revolution will not be televised… by the people.
Yeahhhh, I’ve been getting less news information since moving to Lemmy. The communities are here, but they have some growing to do.
And then there’s the issue of them growing into the correct servers. For example, my first day here I caught a mod on lemmy.ml banning a user for posting an Axios article about China on World News because “Orientalism”. The article was a pretty common western take on the Xi Xinping succession plan. Really nothing uniquely anti-China. That especially raises eyebrows given the many conversations had about Lemmy’s communist roots from its devs.
Which isn’t to say Lemmy as a whole is tainted - just the dev community, lemmy.ml. So I ethically feel the need to avoid their World News community and only use lemmy.world’s World News community, but that places me into an even smaller and more split community, giving me even less information. All I can think is that I need to be the change I want to see and intentionally post to/comment on the lemmy.world World News community.
You should try Mastodon for news, it does a better job of it currently. I think lemmy will step up soon but it’s not there yet.https://assortedflotsam.com/@NewsBot/
Is reddit actually imploding or is it just business as usual?
Depends on where you go.
Subs like r/worldnews and r/tech have bottom of the barrel comments, but still manage to get some posts.
r/IAmA had many of the mods leave, so the remaining ones are stopping all “out of Reddit” activities, like recruiting celebrities, verifying identities, and so on. It’s pretty much worthless now.
Small niche subs are still working, but the equivalent communities on Lemmy are getting better quality right now.
Worldnews has always skewed a little to the right but the comments I read on a post about the immigrants drowning absolutely disgusted me
There have been some posts where the comments have been 100% memes and off-topic.
IMHO the strongest point of news aggregators like Reddit, is the extra information that isn’t in the linked article, otherwise there is no benefit over an RSS feed reader.
There are also probably many bot answers now at the top.
a little to the right
Not just a little.
I was wrongly banned from that place three years ago for posting a comment that was critical of how Saudi Arabia and other conservative Middle Eastern nations treat women. I’d say they’re far from a right-wing place.
It’s too early to tell but I’m spending more time on Lemmy.
I, and many others, truly believe it is deliberate and orchestrated, primeraly to shut down the likes of r/superstonk and other subs that are fighting wall street corruption.
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[A screenshot of a section of an article by the news outlet “Engadget”. Text reads as follows.]
More platform instability could be in Twitter’s near future. In 2018, Twitter signed a $1 billion contract with Google to host some of its services on the company’s Google Cloud servers. [Hyperlink begins] Platformer reports [Hyperlink ends] Twitter recently refused to pay the search giant ahead of the contract’s [Highlighted in yellow] June 30th renewal date. [Highlighting ends] Twitter is reportedly rushing to move as many services off of Google’s infrastructure before the contract expires, but the effort is “running behind schedule,” putting some tools, including Smyte, a platform the company [Hyperlink begins] acquired in 2018 [Hyperlink ends] to bolster its moderation capabilities, in danger of going offline.
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You’re doing important work! Just wanted to drop a small correction, the news outlet is actually called “engadget” Cheers!
Autocorrect I swear to God…
Sorry about that! I was doing some quickly this morning while on hold calling the doctor’s office so I guess I didn’t proofread it great. Thank you!
I used to work for a local company that sold parts to Tesla. They were a huge nightmare and wouldn’t pay us. I think that is their whole deal. Not paying the small companies.
FUCK them
Sounds like Trump
Sounds like Elon
Sounds like rich entitled cunts
Unfortunately that sort of behaviour is common in many sectors where large companies subcontract with smaller companies.
The tactic basically created the whole factoring concept (buying invoices, or using invoices as security for a “loan”/credit).
Over here in Sweden it was construction companies that initially fuelled the development, and the large companies basically required very long payment terms (60+ days) from their subcontractors and then waited to the very last day to dispute the invoice by complaining on some part of the work, further delaying payment. A small subcontractor could often not front being out that much money (2+ months of salaries, materials and other operating costs, cost of fighting the dispute etc) and ended up going bust. Enter financial institutions buying (or “lending” with the invoice as security) the invoice, letting the subcontractor get paid immediately, but of course not the full amount since the factoring company wants to profit from the deal. The factoring companies being backed by large financial institutions (banks typically) have enough money that they can sit out those long payment terms and other “bullshit” since they know those large construction companies ARE good for the money they are owed EVENTUALLY.
Still carves into the margins for the small actors.
The Trump playbook.
Don’t you know? Paying your bills is woke
“Bills” is now considered a slur on Twitter.
Imagine if this guy had the controls to the oxygen on Mars
It’s ok guys, Elon told his engineers to just rewrite the stack, so all problems will go away!
It’s probably the Tesla engineers he brought in who are doing that so it should go great. If you can build the best, self driving car in the world, building a little social network is easy peasy.
I don’t know what will happen with Twitter. Maybe it succeeds, maybe it fails, maybe it just keeps humming along in mediocrity. But what I do know is that wherever it ends up, there was surely a much simpler way to get there.
Well he did try pulling out the cables going into the server clusters. Maybe he got tired and bored before he could pull them all out
Im enjoying the shit show Elon is providing. It’s definitely entertaining watching a “genius” at work.
I think it’s probably a combination of self-DDOSing and not paying providers. Which any intelligent experienced dev could’ve told him, but they all got fired months ago.
Its almost like the developers were holding the site together.
AnD TwaTTEr JusT ruNnInG FiNe DaWG
Other companies should follow the lead and fire all this dead weight 🙄
Imagine all the profit!
Twitter was an important unifying communications tool during the Arab Spring. The Arab spring was a threat to biz as usual in places like Saudi Arabia. The second largest investor in Twitter is Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia killed and dismembered a journalist from the US, more or less in plain sight. Elon is now killing and dismembering Twitter in plain sight to limit its power as a unifying tool that stands as a demonstrable, active threat to capitalism and oligarchs around the world.
Billionaires do favors for other billionaires. It’s part of why spez is trying to tank Reddit. Remember how dangerous Reddit was to capitalism’s status quo around the time of GME/Robinhood/Antiwork recently.
The specific moment we’re in right now is meant to shatter consolidated organizing power on Reddit as we splinter into several smaller alternative platforms (or for some, disconnect entirely). Not saying we shouldn’t be in Lemmy, but calling out the larger reality of the moment.
Billionaires do favors for other billionaires.
That’s a bit too much conspiracy for my taste, but for sure, billionaires don’t do anything for our good.
Exactly. Billionairs look out for themselves first and foremost. They try to maximise their profit.
Musk wants to push more people to pay for verified. The reddit board (not only Spez) wants people to download their app to make it seem like their growing right before their IPO, while simultaneously forcing more ad views. Probably downloading the app also lets them track a lot of extra data about you as well.
No conspiracy needed to explain all this.
The more I’ve been watching this whole thing play out, the more I’m inclined to believe that something like this is possible.
Unfortunately for these dipshits masquerading as geniuses, the genie is out of the bottle, and there’s no way he’s getting corked back in. The internet is really all we need, and in the event of the mass coordination required to organize a protest or anything of the sort, the first best option will win. Whether that’s Signal, or Lemmy, or Facebook, or whatever. Necessity is the mother of invention and the amount of resources that a pissed off population has will always win out in the long-term. Hell, we’ll pull a fucking sneaker net if we really have to.
Reddit has already been compromised for a few years now anyways. I noticed when they started banning people for not subscribing to group think or the more recent examples of permabanning users for anti-Russian rhetoric. There are only a few vestiges of Aaron’s original dream of Reddit, found in places like Antiwork or WSB, but they’re a drop in a bucket full of site-wide dogshit.
They paid the google bill. So far it’s the only one I’ve seen them pay and who knows if they’ll continue.
Fuck em both
Got downvoted in another post for having this sentiment.
Why should online plebs care about corpo clowns having a fee dispute?
The corporate internet is killing itself, and we’ll all be better for it.
I’m not going to claim I know what’s happening, but I like the self-DDoSing explanation because it’s even funnier
What can i say ? I just don´t care anymore about twitter. Also any misfortune for space Karen is just a plus at this point
What’s up with billionaires and not paying their bills?
I think it’s more that people who tend to be billionaires tend to also be kinda scummy people.
You dont make that kind of money being honest and empathetic. The most honest ppl I know that run businesses are barely paying themselves. There’s a reason CEOs have higher than normal representation of psychopaths. It allows them to make the best decisions even if it means running the orphan killing machine 24/7.
Think I got rich by paying people?
This is so much more true than I think most people believe.
My husband and I have a small engine business, and I took a free “community entrepreneur bootcamp” class through the local university this spring in the hope that we might learn something helpful. Instead, I learned fun things like leaning on your customers’ fears as a marketing tactic (?? 😔🤦) and that the most prominent local accountant - brought in as an expert speaker by the university! - advises his clients to pay as little as possible as late as possible, and most appallingly, I’m not exaggerating, these are the actual words I heard this man say in front of a room full of people: “if one of your employees gets hurt at your business, it’s better for you to stand on their neck until they stop breathing than to call for help, because it’s so much easier and cheaper to settle a death claim then an injury.” And he actually said that it sounds like he’s joking but he’s not, this is his understanding of the situation.
I genuinely want to see the best in everyone, and I have never before had the experience of fantasizing about a person’s death while they were talking in front of me, and it was abhorrent and awful but also… Wtf? How do we even help someone who sees other people as expendable tools the way this person does?
What can we even do about people who not only don’t want to live up to their agreements and commitments, but are just straight up out to fuck everyone else over? How do we help/fix that?
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It sounds very similar to when I was in seminary. They literally had classes on how to manipulate your audience. How to “use vocal patterns and body language to make yourself appear more sincere.”
People severely underestimate how many shitty people there are in this world (and even those who appear trustworthy) that would eat your firstborn to increase their net worth if it wasn’t illegal.
I read an article years ago that explained why so many people get “religious” feelings at big revival-type events at Six Flags, Carowinds, etc, even if they’re not particularly devout.
There’s a thing called respiratory alkalosis (essentially hyperventilation) which makes you light-headed and confused. At it’s really easy to trigger by making people stand up quickly, sing really hard, sit back down, stand up and cheer, etc.
That sounds interesting! Do you remember where you found it? I would love to read it.
I’m back! I couldn’t find the specific thing I read, but I found something probably better, an actual study published in Pubmed:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8871314/Statistical analyses showed that the psychological disposition during the religious worship experience speeds up the physiological responses, which was indicated by increases in HR [hear rate] and RR [respiratory rate]. Hence, the activation hypothesis was accepted, and the pacification hypothesis was rejected.
Thanks! You made my day, my good lemming.
The conclusion fits what you said earlier, and it is easy to see how this is probably used cynically for these cult bro events:
The first analysis was an exploration of the physiological data, where it was seen that HR and RR were significantly correlated. The values of how strongly the participants were able to focus on God were strongly associated with the intensity of the experience as well as with the physiological variables
I’ll try to look for it. It was a loooong time ago though.
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