Latest foss drama. Consequences of your actions…

the /r/linux subreddit thread about this is as awful as you would imagine.

The SJW’s are coming for your toothbrush!!!-

  • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    If you want a layman’sol opinion between Arch Linux ARM and Void Linux I much prefer Void Linux partly because systemd. I don’t hate systemd but it seems to add a layer of esoteric complexity that I have discovered I don’t need through my usage of Void Linux.

    For example, I had been trying to set up a wifi USB adapter on Arch. I have installed and configured iwd for this. In Void, this would have been enough. But in Arch, there is a one-shot service that checks if network is available and other services that need network/internet can use this service as a depenendency. This is a nice feature but it turns out I then also have to configure this wifi interface in some systemd folder otherwise the one-shot service does not care a out the wifi adapter. Until I did this, some services would not start until the one-shot service timed out and failed and these kinds of problems are hard to google or ask help for because it is hard to tell in the first place what is going wrong.

    There are other things like how systemd comes with its own implementations of ntpd, dns confguration and even some cron equivalent. It is very confusing. I guess it’s valuable knowledge if one uses systemd distros all the time though.

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      yeah systemd isn’t for me, but I don’t hate it. On debian so far it hasn’t really affected me negatively. After xz vulnerability I see increasing problems with it, and am considering using other distros including void…or one of the bsd’s…

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        8 months ago

        Using OpenRC on Gentoo saved me from Fractureiser. There’s some benefit from using less common tools.

        Once I get my Gentoo setup back up and running, I plan to use OpenRC+s6. s6’s developer talks about issues with different init systems here. I don’t hate systemd, but I believe different systems fulfill different purposes with different requirements, and some tools are better suited for different requirements. Nonetheless, I would prefer there to be options unless a specific tool fulfills all purposes better than others.

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          All of that makes sense to me. I’m not using gentoo though lol. I’d probably keep a debian install around at all times out of habit…For non systemd linux probably void, and for unix like probably one of the bsd’s