Realistically I’ll have to look into this before trusting a random comment and I probably wont because it’s half the world away from me and he’s dead anyway.

I am sure there is some subtly in personal culpability though because between Mao and peasants killing birds was a whole bureaucracy that evidentally thought it was worth doing (and idk how much is slavish obedience/fear).

Temujin personally killed a lot of people. Like personally ordered the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and his overall campaign was ~10% of human population at the time an estimated 40 million, which seems to be comparable to famine figures even if we personally blame both of them. Dude was a certified maniac and I think that especially given the overall lower population at the time and deliberate murderous intentions stands as histories greatest monster and most murderous person.

Like personally? I often feel like attributing famines solely to one person is a bit messed up, although there are cases like Bengal where specific government individuals were enthusiastic .

The party later distanced themselves from him somewhat, so presumably they thought his ideas could be improved on but I had thought a lot of china and USSR famines rested on really dumb ideas about industrial agriculture that were popular in many places + officials hiding bad numbers + desperate need to show immediate superiority of alledgedly better numbers + upheavals of massive civil was and ww2.

temujin? who claims he’s leftist?

Is it praxis to blow up lemmy.world to decentralise the 'verse?

lmfao this is hilarious

The above comment is made of glyphs arranged to convey meaning. The Code of Hammurabi is made of glyphs arranged to convey meaning.

So the comment will very well be likely a significant contribution to human culture.

Thanks comrade, mad appreciation for the nice server you run here. I’ve found some really interesting reading thanks to the users and you seem to have a great culture.

Yeah I feel like their TOS update banned discussions/promotions of meat eating but I am not sure they realise that.

Holy shit actual facts.

I’ve avoiding arguing about this because I’ll just be drowned out but gotta say it’s worn on me the amount of people calling us hiltlarian dictators because we gasp want to let vegans post vegan shit without constantly having to defend themselves.

soz but are the animals killed for the cat food not equally deserving of life and happiness as a cat?

I used to agree, but nuttlex buttery is actually quite good!

although personally don’t add fat to much, being an enthusiastic cook that is growing sideways a little more than I ought to.

Hope that’s oil or margarine on that popcorn! Chicken salt is fine though, amusingly it has no chicken in it. Weird name huh?

Hi! I’m the mod that started this all! I think everyone who uses the phrase “obligate carnivore” is outing themselves as a complete buffoon since it has literally 0 application to whether or not it is possible, which would be obvious if people looked up the definition.

But of course, that would be expecting a lot from people :)

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idk man I went through the modlog and you kinda seem like a shithead. You admit to trolling vegans, you post some pretty ridiculous stuff, and go around explaining to vegans how to be vegan while saying that you aren’t going to be one. It’s kinda not really making your “I’m an innocent little user who was unjustly banned” case. It looks like maybe the straw that broke the camel’s back so to speak.

I mean pet food in general is absolute completely fucked. Like the standard kibble is awful, it contains random excess from animal ag (including, amusingly, a lot of plant matter), garbage from the grinding process including plastic, ash etc. It’s bad stuff.

So the usual care and precautions apply, plus obviously it’s early days and so you should be getting regular health checks. Of course you should be doing that anyway. Something that frustrates me a little in all this is that people act like everyone buying the random kibble and free feeding a cat is being responsible, but if that kibble was a different kibble it’s suddenly abuse. That’s basically just privileging that status quo, and nutritional inadequacies in “pet” diets are astonishingly common.

Anyway food allergies etc are a thing, so even if you were killing to feed a cat you should make any dietary changes carefully and slowly.

Without evidence this is just slander /shrug

Although personally depending on the context I don’t see an issue. Like if I go make a bunch of horrible, racist, “jokes” on shitposting or whatever and the beehaw admins ban my account from their server pre-emptively as I’m not of the character they want because of their bee kind policy. That seems… fine?

I can always make another account I behave in line with their goals on to participate in their server.

I am an eternal optimist in my beliefs of human goodness and social ingenuity.

narrator voice

It started in a vegan struggle session, the fuel had been building for a while but that was the final spark. An explosive mixture of vitriol, resentment, and externalised shame flaired in an instant.

We don’t know the inciting comment, it was lost with the original hard drive in the early days of the war. Everyone remembers something different, that’s part of why the divide continues. Platters smashed, cables cut, keyboards melted to slag. Our desperate efforts to control the narrative, to determine who could post escalated beyond the digital. Beyond all reason.

We don’t know the inciting comment, but as I wake in this blasted wasteland I sure as hell know the one that’s going to finish it. metallic gun noises

vegantheoryclub.org is a vegan run instance that was created pretty much precisely because of shit like this.

I think it’s worth communicating how this admin is using their powers, and to other people that the vegan community was taken over by an anti-vegan carnist for personal reasons. So that users can make up their minds over where they want to participate.

Outside of that I don’t really care, I’m not optimistic they’ll be reigned in and think lemmy.world is not a very well run server for reasons like this.