Chanting, “We don’t care, we don’t care, let the world war ignite”

Decades are going to happen soon.

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    The issue of supplying Ukraine with artillery munitions isn’t that we don’t have the munitions. It’s that we don’t want to touch our stockpile and we never will as it’s not to be used except in the case of all out war.

    And why do you think that is, genius? It’s because America and NATO don’t have the industrial capacity to replenish those shells in time.

    Since we are not an howitzer based artillery dependant nation

    Reality doesn’t work like that, there’s no such thing as an army that doesn’t rely on artillery in a land war unless you can get away with having air superiority against a nation that doesn’t have their own air force and air defen… do you see where I’m going with this?

    howitzer based artillery is an antiquated tertiary weapon platform

    lol you’re a joke!

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      I’m glad you mentioned that last point about air superiority. Could you do me a favor and remind me which country owns the first largest Air Force? The second largest Air Force, and the third largest Air Force. Oh right that’s the USAF the USAAF and the USN.

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        I see that irony is not your forte. I’m trying to tell you that the US cannot get away with the “air superiority” tactics they did in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc because countries like Russia and China have a lot of air defenses and their own air forces. Do you get it now?

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          Replying as a second comment. Just so you see this, but this was intended as an edit. Russia can’t defend its own airspace from drone attacks based out of Ukraine. You realize this right? Not saturation attacks, just straight up commercial grade civilian drones 15 to 20 of them launched at a time. Traveling several hundred miles into Russian airspace and detonating on targets… They cannot detect them, let alone defend from them. I would expect China and India to have much better capabilities however.

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            This is an idiotic argument. Ukraine has one third of all western AD in Europe and it is still unable to fully defend against Russian drones and missiles. Smaller, lower flying targets are harder to detect and hit than big manned jets. They are also more expendable so you can afford to use them more recklessly. Drones are regularly shot down in great numbers or brought down by EW, if this happened to manned aircraft it would be a disaster. If the US tried using its jets against any country with halfway decent AD its pilots who took years and billions of dollars to train would start dying like flies, not to mention aircraft being destroyed that is thousands of times more expensive than a drone, and there would be the mother of all scandals back home. The US has no capacity to absorb real losses, it’s why they only pick on the most defenseless countries and non-state actors.

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          Do you understand that the reason that the US is having its proxy war in Ukraine is that we get to test all of our equipment for free? So far we are not impressed by the fact that Russia’s top of the line gear is being smacked down by our shit from 1990. While our air defense systems are still operational and dishing out punishment.

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            Do you understand that the reason that the US is having its proxy war in Ukraine is that…

            The containment strategy against Russia is failed and they decided to fight back, yes

            we get to test all of our equipment for free

            I wouldn’t call throwing EU economies into recession and disarming NATO “free” lol

            So far we are not impressed by the fact that Russia’s top of the line gear is being smacked down by our shit from 1990.

            You live in fantasy land, Ukraine is getting pounded by Russia, abandoned by America and you’re still high off the MSM farts with stories of pensioners downing jets with rifles and Russian generals dying every week

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              Disarming NATO lol

              NATO countries donating outdated equipment and using it as an excuse to buy new toys. Yes totally disarmed.

              It’s cost the US 3%of it’s Military budget to have Russian capabilities utterly crippled. And this conflict has encouraged inter-european cooperation and strengthened NATO logistics for minimal year-over-year cost increase. However, as Russia is finding out, Europe does not need Russian energy.