I was un a dance club this weekend, and there was a guy that I assume was a metalhead, long hair, beard, metal band t-shirt and a really cool kilt banging on tge dance floor. Pretty cool party, there was also a girl in a wedding dress and a white medieval doctor mask.

Irish dancing lives on though! It’s cool as hell and pretty popular among men as well

Celts are honorary PoC, Scotland just needs to stop hanging out with their toxic friend, England and just start minding their own business and I think they’re as good as redeemed.

the only actual aryan culture is btfoing whatever the fuck that lives in Europe

Be proud of humanity’s greatest accomplishment: the MCU

Actually, many CHUDs (ESPECIALLY WASPs) would say yes. Even as a kid it bothered me just how cultureless the US felt.

Idk people seem to love to performatively hate on stuff like Astrology and divinations, which do seem like the last vestiges of pagan religion for white people. Idk I could be wrong. It just reminds me of when Occupied Koreans malded that their president consulted a “witch” even though that’s literally their native religion.

Pretty sure the person who played barney ended up being a pedo…

By and large Alexander the great was by all accounts bi and large

No, don’t give them ideas because you know damn well some CHUD trolls are going to try saying “being gay is antisemitic” and it’s going to be seen as the ultimate gotcha.

Neopagans who arent fascists are usually pretty cool though i think. Sometimes a bit cringe but its ok.

Compromise, men having sex with men but the holiday is now that they kill slave owners for fun , but with spears so it’s authentic

There’s no meaningful equivalence between the US’s deliberate and considered 400 year long campaign of extermination of Indigenous American people and the raucous brawling of dozens of different barely Christianized fratricidal ethnolinguistic groups with wildly different political and economic organizations haphazardly integrating, marrying in to, fighting, conquering, being conquered by, exterminating, or peacefully syncretizing with their neighbors. Europe did not exist until fairly recent history. Idk, maybe Napoleon or something. Christianity in the medieval period was a complete mess of idiosyncratic regional practices and petty heresies with very little central control and authority. Like sometimes the pope could flex, depending on the situation.

You want to talk about, idk, the Teutonic Knights being murderous psychos, we can talk about that. if we limit the discussion to like a specific handful of decades. But Europe and Christianity did not exist in the way they do now.

Like the Crusades? Absolutely not a genocidal campaign of whatever, and they weren’t viewed as such by the people at the time. Arab writers of the time considered the invasion of the Franks as just politics as usual. The idea that it was an campaign of extermination waged between ideologically coherent factions is modern nonsense.

why are ancient/medieval paganisms more important than the cultural innovations of the society after it was christian? why not the celtic paganism germans replaced in central europe? or the hunter-gatherer religions agricultural communities replaced?

Also see Ecc. 3 on the unity of opposites

Some places in Russia were continually pagan up to this day even, there’s some very interesting practices in the urals

than truly authentic

the thesis is that there is not a ‘truly authentic’ that went away. this impression of lost and vanishing authenticity is just noble savage tropes turned from indigenous people to white people.

White supremacy has a very specific idea of what “culture” should be and very much alienates and supresses things outside it

as a system racial hierarchy suppresses and shapes, but the contents of the ideology are still shifting and in competition. Yankee WASP whiteness vs. blanquimiento whiteness, is whiteness homophobic? patriarchal? is it catholic or protestant?

And the idea that it was a pagan symbol is strictly from German nationalists in the mid 1800s trying to explicitly form a continuity for the German Volk. It is literal Ariosophy

Yeah, no, there were no equivalent groups or organizations or states or entities or religion equivalent to modern European nation states, nor any programs or projects akin to 16th century Spanish Colonialism or 19th century Missionary Imperialism, prior to the development of those things. Equating the spread of the Christianity in the late classical and early medieval period to shit going on in the 1500s or 1800s is ahistorical.

There barely were “Shared Christian Values” until like, idk… God, when did they start to homogenize the religion? Because for like a thousand years it was just a mish-mash of idiosyncratic practices, small religious communities, weird schisms, warring factions of scholars. There wasn’t a single coherent centrally organized Christianity until probably the Crusades, and even that was a complete mess. Like yeah, they were mostly using Bibles that were at least similar, and a lot of the Priests were at least able to read Latin, but there wasn’t much standardization. Treating “Christians” as a single religious group, or ethnoreligious group, or nation in the medieval period does not reflect the societal practices and systems of power at that time.

“Whiteness” as we conceptualize it didn’t exist until like the 16th century at the absolutely earliest, and didn’t really solidify in to it’s modern form until a while after that. There was no “Whiteness” in medieval Europe. Tribes, towns, linguistic groups, allegiance to various secular or religious lords, sure. Religious societies, sure. But there was no whiteness, nothing we would recognize as Nation States. The Christians that replaced, violently or not, pre-Christian Europeans weren’t an organized or monolithic body. It was dozens of different cultures and language groups, some of which were only barely practicing the same religion, acting according to their own material interests. There was nothing equivalent to the US genocide of Native Americans or the Spanish conquest and mass slaughter in South America.

The closest I’m aware of would be the Teutonic Knight’s crusades in to north Eastern Europe. And those guys fought other Christians as much as they fought non-Christians, and were, iirc, widely considered psychopaths by all their neighbors Christian and non-Christian alike.

Also, genuinely curious - Crusade in Ireland? I have never heard even a suggestion of anything like that, except that silly nonsense about Patrick violently expelling Pagans from Ireland.

I think reddit atheists maintain a lot of the bad of religion in their mindset, but they importantly lack any sense of community or self-sacrificing. It is like american protestantism removing all the difficult and challenging parts of faith

That’s not Christianity, that’s almost entirely capitalism post 2007. There was lots of shit to do back in the day. Like they still have fireworks wars between cathedrals in Greece or Turkey or somewhere over there. People dress up in wierd outfits for processions. There are literally saints days for every day of the year if you want to have feasts. There are flagellants who march through the streets whipping themselves bloody. There’s Dia del muertes, there’s santeria, like I cannot even begin to begin to begin to list all the weird funky shit Christians do in various parts of the world. Even in America.

America specifically has like 0 fucking collective practices that encourage people to interact outside of their nuclear family group

This is a really recent phenomena. Like 21st century. There’s an old book called “Bowling Alone” from like 20 years ago that looks in to the decline of community in the late 20th century, and it’s gotten much worse much much faster in the 21st century.

I think you might be conflating big picture Christianity with like Baptists and Mormons and Christian Fascists and idk, maybe Lutherans. Christianity as a whole is fucking nutty. Like Carnival, with all the beautiful people in the sequins and feathers, and the drinking and the dancing, all that? That’s a Christian festival where people are basically getting it all out of their system before Lent starts.

Like back when I was a kid we’d all go to the local Catholic church and sing “traditional” Irish songs and folk music and rebel songs and shit while everyone go drunk.

There’s an old Joke that Protestants are allowed to fuck but don’t fuck, and Catholics aren’t allowed to fuck but fuck all the time. Like Protestants tend to be boring Calvinist shits, but other denominations party.