There is also a total failure to understand that as much as the online community is solidly to the left of democrats, the policies don’t play as well to middle America. I believe in gun regulation, but if a candidate’s platform goes too hard on that they will lose MI and PA for sure. UBI? You better believe that’s a loser. Doesn’t matter how good the policy is, the messaging terrifies people.
I fucking love Bernie. That is a dude with integrity and heart. I wish he’d been elected. But he would’ve lost the general election (except maybe 2016 - I suspect only Hillary could’ve lost to Trump, but in hindsight it’s easy to say maybe we shouldn’t have taken the losing path). Candidates you love but can’t win aren’t going to help anyone. Biden has proven himself against Trump and no one else has. I’m damn sure happy he’s running.
There is also a total failure to understand that as much as the online community is solidly to the left of democrats, the policies don’t play as well to middle America.
Four decades of moving to the right to (ostensibly) please centrists’ notion of middle America, and your poll numbers are dropping against a literal fascist. You need the votes of the left that party leadership hates. We’re already funding genocide. How much farther do the right do you suppose we can move?
Fine. Four decades of moving to the right to (ostensibly) please centrists’ notion of middle America, and Democrats’ poll numbers are dropping against a literal fascist. Democrats need the votes of the left that party leadership hates. We’re already funding genocide. How much farther do the right do you suppose we can move?
Now can you try addressing this instead of trying to divert?
You run too far left and you lost the rust belt. Who are you picking up to replace their votes? Traditionally the play had been to whine about the electoral college and wish we had a different system, but we don’t so the question remains.
But as an aside I don’t owe you any fucking explanations and in any event I certainly don’t speak for the people you’re pissed at. I have one agenda here and that’s to keep a fascist from taking over. Democrats and Biden are the means to that end. But I don’t actually give two shits about party. I enjoy conversations about this stuff. Gives me interesting things to think about and often new perspectives to consider. But the way you are treating me here is not cool and not fun.
Yeah, unions are super unpopular in the rust belt. It’s great how we abandoned them for so long. Moving to the right and away from unions sure helped us there.
There is also a total failure to understand that as much as the online community is solidly to the left of democrats, the policies don’t play as well to middle America. I believe in gun regulation, but if a candidate’s platform goes too hard on that they will lose MI and PA for sure. UBI? You better believe that’s a loser. Doesn’t matter how good the policy is, the messaging terrifies people.
I fucking love Bernie. That is a dude with integrity and heart. I wish he’d been elected. But he would’ve lost the general election (except maybe 2016 - I suspect only Hillary could’ve lost to Trump, but in hindsight it’s easy to say maybe we shouldn’t have taken the losing path). Candidates you love but can’t win aren’t going to help anyone. Biden has proven himself against Trump and no one else has. I’m damn sure happy he’s running.
Four decades of moving to the right to (ostensibly) please centrists’ notion of middle America, and your poll numbers are dropping against a literal fascist. You need the votes of the left that party leadership hates. We’re already funding genocide. How much farther do the right do you suppose we can move?
Who the hell is “you”? I’m not a Democrat if that’s what you think.
Fine. Four decades of moving to the right to (ostensibly) please centrists’ notion of middle America, and Democrats’ poll numbers are dropping against a literal fascist. Democrats need the votes of the left that party leadership hates. We’re already funding genocide. How much farther do the right do you suppose we can move?
Now can you try addressing this instead of trying to divert?
You run too far left and you lost the rust belt. Who are you picking up to replace their votes? Traditionally the play had been to whine about the electoral college and wish we had a different system, but we don’t so the question remains.
But as an aside I don’t owe you any fucking explanations and in any event I certainly don’t speak for the people you’re pissed at. I have one agenda here and that’s to keep a fascist from taking over. Democrats and Biden are the means to that end. But I don’t actually give two shits about party. I enjoy conversations about this stuff. Gives me interesting things to think about and often new perspectives to consider. But the way you are treating me here is not cool and not fun.
Yeah, unions are super unpopular in the rust belt. It’s great how we abandoned them for so long. Moving to the right and away from unions sure helped us there.