Hey guys,

So first of all - I live with my little brother, we’re both in our 20s. We watch streams here and there, we both own a smart TV, watch Youtube here and there, we both own PCs, and phones which are in the WIFI most of the time.

We’re not streaming / gaming 24/7, but more like a 3-4 hour gaming session every few days in the evening, maybe some Youtube here and there.

We don’t download huge games, we don’t upload anything at all, besides maybe an image here and there, or some videos over Whatsapp.

Today I checked my router because I feel like my internet’s just weird for whatever reason. I then found the “data usage” section on my router, and was kinda… surprised.

1.650.000MB of data used in the last month, 1,500,000MB this month, download. Upload, around 500,000MB last month, 450,000MB this month.

Let me mention that we’re running a 100mbit/s connection, with 50mbit/s upload.

Isn’t this weird for some reason? We’re not huge gamers, we live alone, this is our router, and nobody else is in it. We just enjoy watching streams in the evening, mostly just Youtube, and that’s it already.

  • Chigzy@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Normal all depends.

    Here in the UK we don’t have data caps but our personal household usage roughly is 500GB a month between 3 of us on 65Mb. We don’t do anything other than stream in 1080p and I’m the only one who games. I don’t know about upload usage, of 20Mb, never actually asked our ISP.

    The UK is on average about 456GB in May 2022. With the UK passing over 60% of households having fibre to the home as of late, that number is likely closer to double that now; especially as more people can watch content reliably in 4K and upload more since WfH etc…

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      1 year ago

      Download, yes.

      My guess for upload, P2P through game DRMs if OP is centrally located with low latency.

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        1 year ago

        Gaming doesn’t use a lot of bandwidth. OP says the brother plays 20 hours a week. Let’s say 80 hours per month. It would require an average bandwidth of about 15 Mbps during those 80 hours to consume 600 GB. Possible? Yes, but unlikely, especially since he’s not streaming his games.

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          1 year ago

          You do realise steam, blizzard/battle.net, origin, etc. all use P2P by default to share updates?

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    1 year ago

    This seems very high. You can get IP scanners which will tell you what devices are using your network, might be worth having a look and seeing if you can identify them all

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    1 year ago

    Easiest thing to do is to change your wifi password. If someone happened to have figured out your password, they might be adding to your usage. If that fixes your issue, then you can likely assume someone was getting a free ride from you. If not, then you can check data usage on your devices and see if there is an app or something consuming a lot of data in the background from your regular usage.

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    1 year ago

    Sounds about right, house of two here, one usually gaming every day for 3-4 hours.

  • MrPartyWaffle@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I’ve got a three person house hold, but it’s essentially 2 because the 3rd is 86 and doesn’t really use the internet, he does a lot of streaming but all of that is internal SMB streams.

    I run a few low use game servers and play games stream videos, a bit of file sharing, and I personally use 1.2tb a month on my PC, and my server very regularly uses 1.5-2tb. I see myself as a higher use user, but that’s just my example.

    So using a little math, if you were absolutely saturating your internet connection for 30 days straight you should be able to transfer 32,850 gigabytes so it’s certainly not unheard of that you’re getting 1.6tb speaking of, you’re 1.6tb comes out to about 5 megabits a second saturation over the course of 30 days which if someone is streaming 4k is easily done.

    That’s all I can say so far. Is there any possibility to check 100% of my outgoing and ingoing data usage? Like every tiny detail, maybe even the programs that use this data?

    Yeah there certainly are software, but not for seeing other devices traffic, the traffic would have to go through your pc to see it all with programs like wireshark. Alternatively you can use dedicated router systems like Unifi or Omada and they should be able to do Deep Packet Inspection, and sniff where things are going, neither of them are very accurate though.

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    1 year ago

    I do 2.89tb download and 75gb upload a month. I stream everything including iptv. Your upload seems really high, but the download to me not much. Im I a two person household

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    1 year ago

    If you’re downloading a lot of shows or games often, not too bad.

    But wtf are you uploading? Are you sure neither of you are YouTube content creators?

    More likely explanation is someone leeching off your wifi.

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    1 year ago

    That’s a good amount of data use, but if you have 4k TVs with 4k streaming plans, download a lot of games or movies, or work in sound/video editing that amount of data is completely reasonable. 5 years ago, 10 years ago… maybe it was a lot. It’s not anymore. You can use that without even thinking about it just by using modern devices and services.

    My family of 5 went from 1TB a month 10-5 years ago to about 3TB a month in the past 9. Some much higher too, but around there. We don’t try to use more or less, ever. We just use it.

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      1 year ago

      Yeah I was thinking that maybe OP should just change the password for security and then stop digging because he might not like the answers. 😂

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    1 year ago

    How are you getting the data?

    Is it from your router will it show what device the traffic is coming from then you can look into it better?

    What games do you play have they sent out patches that are like redownloading the game?

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    1 year ago

    Family of 4 here. 3 gamers of us are gamers. We stream a lot bit we do not upload much. Download we are at roughly 1.7tb. Upload 184 gb.

    If you are at 600gb for upload, that to me, is a little odd and high. Might want to look into what is connecting out and what is being transferred.

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      1 year ago

      Have you restricted P2P network activity in your household?

      My guess is that OP hasn’t turned this off on the game DRM apps like Steam, is located centrally with many other gamers and has low latency. Even if they haven’t bought new games, they constantly update, and then also share those updates.

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    1 year ago

    My average usage is around 5 TB a month, with the highest month being 26.7 TB of both up and down.

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    1 year ago

    Do you have iCloud sync on a PC?

    I had that, and it was killing my bandwidth. I actually bought a PFSense Netgate firewall to get more visibility into what was using it.

    Ultimately I found it was iCloud sync on my PC.

    You can also see what’s using your bandwidth under the network in windows resource monitor.

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    1 year ago

    Household of 4 here as well.

    We burn through 3-6TB a month, it doesn’t take long for it to rack up.

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    1 year ago

    Your router should allow this unless your renting the cable company router in which case buy a router and have them stop charging you.

    Your new router should come with software to control the flow, just make sure it does that as not all do out the box. Or you could buy a used router and install DTRW or some such which gives you control. It’s technical, so probably better off buying new router with software built in.