I am looking to expand the storage in my SFF server so I ordered 2 Seagate 5TB 2.5" Expansion external HDDs on eBay that were listed as " Open box: An item in excellent, NEW condition with NO WEAR." and “1 year Manufacturer Warranty”. I received 2 drives in their original packaging (matching SNs and I will note the packaging was damaged, so I thought they must’ve opened them to inspect/test the drives before reselling) but when I connected them to my computer and opened CrystalDiskInfo they both have over 20,000 Power on hours! I am currently running them through SeaTools and one has a SMART flag for Air Flow Temperature “Failed in the past”. Seagate’s site lists both as warranty expired in mid 2022. The seller does not accept returns, but since this is an inaccurate listing, I’ve reached out to them to see if they will make it right (they have 100% positive feedback).
“New” Drives I ordered on eBay have 20,000 Power on Hours and questionable SMART status
Now onto the question, the drives inside both are ST5000LM000 (according the CrystalDiskInfo), which has been out for a while now. What kind of life are people getting out of these disks? Are these drives failing at the 30k POH mark or are these a 50k+ POH drive? I will be running the disks in ZFS and the data probably wont be super crucial (Linux ISOs mostly) but I don’t want to have to deal with a bad drive in the near future.
What kind of life are people getting out of the ST5000LM000
The only real answer is somewhere between DOA and decades. And that any storage device/media can fail at any time, for any reason, with or without notice.
I’m aware that Seagate sux, but apparently WD’s 2.5" externals have the USB controller built into the drive, so they cannot be shucked.
As for your WD sux comment, “I reject your reality and substitute my own”, I’ve got a WD drive in my server at over 98,000 POH and Hard Disk Sentinel reports it as “perfect health.”
Also, you forgot Fujitsu.
Not only WD, but Toshiba portables have the USB integrated into the mainboard also. Only Seagate portables are regular SATA drives with a detachable interface.
The only hard drive manufacturers left are Seagate, WD and Toshiba.
Toshiba bought out Fujitsu. Seagate bought out Maxtor and the majority of others.
Mine work well as external drives. Keep in mind that according to the datasheet these are not designed for 24/7 runtime, people who tried that had failures
Speed isn’t much of a concern as read/write will be limited to my internet connection.
They’ve apparently been running near 24/7 as they are only about 960 days old but have 833 days of runtime.
That being said, they will be in a zfs mirror and the data is not critical.
I purchased them from Costco. I had to return them after 2 years due to failure. Careful with data stored on those drives.
The ones that I have used to connect media to my nvidia shield have worked fine, but the ones that I used inside laptops have all thrown errors and died.
Ebay? I hope you have paid PayPal. With those screenshots you should be able to receive a refund.
I received a partial refund (enough that I’m willing to ‘risk’ using the drives)
I’m not sure what you’re expecting, the 2.5" drives are generally stuck in the past and underdeveloped, and all the large ones (and even the small-ish ones if they aren’t old) are SMR, and their SMR is more perverse than the usual (or they generally just lack oomph and would crunch much longer and worse than their bigger cousins) and you want to use them with ZFS, and they’ve been already used a lot, and out of warranty.
Like the song says “I fought tougher men but I really can’t remember when”, it might be possible to be worse but I can’t remember how (except maybe for the disks already throwing out errors).
I uses these in my home server, solely because you can fit tow of them sideways into a single 3.5" bay if you use right-angle power connectors. I screw them down to a piece of stiff plastic sheet and then use Velcro to hold that down. I run Proxmox and put them in a ZFS mirror. My VMs and containers run off a small NVMe or mirroed SSDs in the replication server.
That being said, these things work fine for a home file/backup server and don’t use much power. Don’t expect much more out of them and use solid state storage for your hot data.