• Ænima@lemm.ee
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    1 年前

    But it’s a bad thing if a progressive can get republicans to vote D?

    Not a bad thing, just nearly impossible. Republican voters have had the last 20-years of Faux “News” equating Democrats to traitors and baby killers. They’ve tarnished the idea that compromise is required to have a functioning democracy, and their side is always right. Republicans will primary another candidate before they accept or work with Democrats.

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      1 年前

      Not a bad thing, just nearly impossible

      So the moderates immediately giving up what voters want and claiming it’s because they can compromise…

      That’s bullshit?

      There’s no reason for the democratic party to not be as progressive as voters want them to be?

      Do you think moderate politicians are too stupid to know that? Or do you think they’re lying to voters to get elected?

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        1 年前

        I think our two party system is two sides of the same coin. One is just better at doing the bare minimum to appease the masses. They’re both right of center in terms of politics.

        I feel like you may have taken my comment the wrong way. I was agreeing with you and adding personal observations of friends and family and their polarization based on the rhetoric spewed by Fox News. There’s a reason Democrats don’t get primaried by their own party for collaborating with Republicans. The opposite is not the same.

        It’s really hard to get through to these people after years of hearing, “liberals want to eat your babies,” and some such shit. I’ve tried. The idea that progressives want what they want, but actually govern toward those goals when elected, is what is hard to convey when one side sticks their fingers in their ears and yells, “LA LA LA LA LA, SOCIALIST.”

        I’m definitely not saying to give up, but moderates are just closeted Republicans that want an “out” whenever the Republican caucus starts shouting fascistic rhetoric. Getting these people out of their echo chambers will take generations if we still have a society by then.