The October Revolution evolution brough liberation to workers, agriculture proletariat and also woman in USSR. Woman were no longer a property of husband, and they could pursuit any career, like scientist, engineer, soldier or even a cosmonaut. Their voice finally could be heard publicly.

It seems that the years after the October Revolution were also the time of sexual liberation, e.g. like women could have more partners without social stigma, characteristic to patriarchal societies. Conservatives describe this as moral decandency, they write that the Bolsheviks allowed “sadism and masochism” and all kind of sexual perversion. Of course, these conservative fucks do not admit that this “sadism and masochism” cases were most probably consensual sexual practices.

Then, I heard, when Stalin took power, the sexual liberty was tamed. The conservative fucks write something like “Stalin was a monster, but at least he put in order the sexual and moral decandency”. And it looks that the sex matters were quite a tabu during Stalin times. Maybe because there was the Great War and a maximal mobilization and discipline were needed. But after Stalin, things seems similar. I read a story of some Polish man, who met some ladies from USSR, probably in 80s. He said that they were more sexualy prudent than people rised in (ultra-?)catholic Poland (even if at that time there was People’s Republic of Poland, this country is cursed by very strong catholic mind-worm). I know that USSR had many based gay posters, but I do not see evidence of any sexual playfulnes in practice since Stalin. To put it shortly, USSR since Stalin looks as conservative in matters of customs and sex.

Is a grain of truth in the above or I get it wrong?

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    Might I suggest that you learn to identify hierarchies of authority and the ways they reinforce themselves using violence, mythology, pretense, and propaganda? Once you drop the labels, you’ll see that any organization that dictates narratives from a hierarchical position of authority looks identical in function, and only varies in degree. The USSR, like every other hierarchy of ignorance attempted to organize itself so that there was at least one government operative in every family, and reinforced that power structure through segregation and coercion. If the government can halt the progression of male maturity at puberty and then promise every man a wife and home to lord over, then it doesn’t have to worry about policing the women and children.

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      If the government can halt the progression of male maturity at puberty

      This has to be a bit, right?

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      any organization that dictates narratives from a hierarchical position of authority looks identical in function, and only varies in degree

      In current historical stage, no organization can effectively work without some hierarchy and centralisation. Please read any of Marx and Engels works. Your opinion is an insult, putting together such opposites as nazis and USSR. Both hierarchical (USSR less than westerners think), but with totally different goals and morality. So please do not equate hierarchy with oppression. You and your small kid (if you have any) are in hierarchical relationship. But is it oppression?

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        “Insult” is just your subjective judgement. Both organizations cost millions of lives in the name of authoritarian ideology. You’re just upset because you bought more of the propaganda from the USSR than you did the Nazis.

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          Imagine the horror of the Soviet Union killing Nazis who were literally doing the Holocaust.

          Can you imagine how awful it is that they didn’t resort to nonviolent peaceful protests?

          Edit: Just saw you’ve been banned from Lemmygrad for equating the USSR with Nazis.

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