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      The people who vote for him are hermetically sealed away from anything that could make them think.

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      The truth is that’s there’s a sharp dichotomy in American society between those that value integrity and those that do not. It can be seen if you interact with the general public or if you simply have children that you’re trying to raise. Why this is is a very complicated subject, and goes back further than I think we Americans are willing to admit.

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        Democrats are a political corporation of the CPSU kind. Their “integrity” is too strong. They never say anything that can be used against them. They never do anything that can be used against them. They grow their power steadily. They appear competent and they are, there’s no doubt in that.

        It looks professional and strong, and humans are attracted to strength.

        I’m just saying that if there’s a part of population frightened to shit over such a strong faction getting presidency for another 4 years, they are going to vote for anyone other than them, and with a two-party system - yes, for Trump.

        I dunno. I’m part Armenian and part Jewish. Trump threatens both, one with possible enslavement and destruction, one with further moral corruption. Harris in words does not.

        But at the same time I have a historical example - the 1996 election in Russia, where Yeltsin’s campaign had “vote or you’ll lose” as its slogan, his opposition consistent of very unpleasant people - a bunch of communists, fascists and traditionalists, with seemingly nothing in common other than the enemy, and the choice was much like you have between Harris and Trump now.

        Only, as we now know, Yeltsin’s victory was a bridge leading to Putin’s coming to power.

        TLDR, there’s also a sharp dichotomy between those who understand that the awesome strength asking for their vote will not serve them, they will serve it, and those who don’t. And I guess those who can’t decide between these two criteria will still vote for one of the sides, because they’ll feel they have to do something.

        I’m glad I’m not a US citizen, because I personally don’t know how I would decide between these two.

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          I’m sorry, it’s early for me, but did you just say you don’t know how you would choose between the guy shown in the clip above and the competent democrat because of some unrelated election in Russia?

          Edit: Nvm came across some of your other comments on the matter and you’re clearly just out of touch.

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          Comparing Yeltsin the marginally competent drunkard to Harris who has paid her political dues and demonstrated more than sufficient competence in public office is a fatal flaw in your argument.

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          I’m not sure you know what integrity is, as it looks like you missed the point. I’m not saying Harris has a permanent halo affixed over her head, however, the utter lack of integrity in the other candidate is blatant and extreme. That’s not unimportant, and it’s a frightening indicator for those that actually are citizens of this country. People actually identify with that guy, and I believe this is why. They are lacking in integrity and therefore are unable to identify others who are or are not lacking in it. To them, people with actual integrity are frauds or merely pretending to have integrity. Because nobody would really be like that, right?

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            I meant internal consistency by integrity.

            If by integrity you mean that a presidential candidate is honest with you and follows some moral values they declare, then you’re so delusional I don’t think there’s hope for you.

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            I meant internal consistency by integrity.

            If by integrity you mean that a presidential candidate is honest with you and follows some moral values they declare, then you’re so delusional I don’t think there’s hope for you.

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          Damn, that’s a whole lot of rationalization. Newsflash - Boris Yeltsin and Kamala Haris are not analogous.

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      It’s because people have created an entirely fictional version of Trump inside their head. That’s why they constantly say “yeah what he meant to say…”

      Just watch this video where a bunch of Latinos who will vote for Trump get interviewed https://youtu.be/3f8SG9wkiFw

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      The closeness of this race is proof of the failure of the American Experiment. And a reflection that democracies end in autocracy.

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          A̵̱͓̤͚͍͖͔̅̀̓̑̽̌͛̏̓̇͝r̸̨̛̰͖̲̟͍̍͑́͠e̵̞̥̫̙̯̓͐͝ ̶͕̝̻͓̺͙͑̌̚͠ͅͅy̴̜̫̤̮̋o̴̧̜̬͙͙͖̊̃̄́̅͗͛̐̆̑̈́͠u̶̬̹̱̩͚̮̹̪͊̓̔̏ͅ ̸̨̡͍͚̼̟̻͈̣̲̱̈̐̐͒̄̕ͅs̵̤̽̈́̉̒̊̋u̸̢͉̩̣͈̙̼̘̘̥͎͕̎̄̾͗̇̕r̴̠͎̿͆̋̏e̶̖͖̱̮͈͉̥̭̺̺̗̋͋͌̏͒̓̓̽̚̕͜͝ ̶̭̼͖̝̫̭̭̖̣̞̗̜͂̀̐͛̍̒̈̚t̶̲̬̺͇͕̺͙͔͓̫͔̤̺̿̄̓̈͌̈́̕͠ḩ̶̺͓̱͚̥̓ȁ̶̡̳̟̞̠̀̇̆̀̉̒̈́͂̌̑t̴̥̥͍̠̖̠͍͇̰́́̀̈́͋̑͗͗͘’̸̢̨̤͖̱̭̰̠̻̓͜ͅͅs̸̡̡̘̱̘̭̜͉̓̈́͐͋͋͌ͅ ̶͖̖͗̑̐̐͗̌͐n̷̳͉͔͙̒̏͛̉̚̚͠͝ơ̸͚̤̤̯̥̤̪͖̰̝̦͖̈́͑͛̎͆̚͜͠͝t̵̖̠̘͚̯̲̝͇̭͕̮̖̅́͒̏̊̀̌͂͝ ̷̹̼͚͕͂̎̓̽̐̔t̶̫͕̻̠̣͝h̵̨̹̱̻̐͐̑̈́͂̕͝e̵͇͕̿ ̴̺̤͓̜̖̫̙͐̋̂̆͊̔̓̿̾̂͝͠ͅd̴̢̬̰͔̞̬͓̣͍̈́̽̎͠r̸̢̘̝̻̲̥̻̞̖̝̖͚̅̄͋͜e̶̢̫̹̞͓̮̭̬̟̯͓͇̍̉̏̍̐͂͂̊͘̕ȁ̴̩͙̠̟͈̲̗̝͋̔̉̾̾̏͘m̴̡̨̧̭̳̬̠̬̂̀̀ ̶̢̛̲̞̻̈͋̎̊͗̎̈̌̋͝ţ̷̳̱̳̗͝a̶͉̼̫͉̫̺̼̍͌̀̊̇̈́ͅl̴̨̤̣̯̲̠͙̝̬̳̥̒͌̊k̷̡̲̩̭̖̬̳͗͜ī̵̮̤̋ň̵̢͕̗̞̜͓͔̽͗̂̂̍͛̊̑̽̊g̴̙͍̭̟̼̔̐̂͗̏̋̂̕͜?̴͉̤̥͔̯͆́̎̎̋͊̃͘͠͝

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    I’m sorry, but anyone voting for this cunt is garbage. Or piece of shit, or however you may call them. If I would find out anyone in my life voted for this motherfucker, they would be out of my life for good.

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      Good job, cutting your real social ties, relatives and connections and possible allies, for some faces on TV.

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        Some of my “real social ties” as you call them- actually support those “faces on TV,” and these “social ties” not only support them, but wholeheartedly align morally with them- which is in direct opposition of my own moral codes.

        And one of those codes happens to be not associating with ignorant and toxic people.

        Family or not.

        Blood may be thicker than water, but it’s not thicker than a system of humanitarian values, and an adherence to logic, reason, and free-thinking.

        I will not sacrifice any of these things to keep toxic people in my life. Social ties or not.

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          Real life is a bit more practical.

          Good relationship between family and politics is - you do disagree with your family, and you do pick different sides in politics, the more different the better. But in the end the part of the family that supported the winning side pulls up the other part of the family.

          It’s more of a survival tactic. I’m not sure if you really know how this works.

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            This goes FAR beyond “different sides in politics.” They are hateful and toxic. And from where I stand, I know plenty enough about how it works to know you have no place telling me how to go about managing the relationships in my life.

            So how about you keep your smug, self-righteous judgements to yourself and keep out of the decisions made by others.

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        It’s not for faces on TV.

        It’s for the utter lack of morality required to support people of Trump’s caliber.

        It’s for the “Stand down and Stand by.”

        It’s for the “Shithole countries.”

        It’s for the rape conviction.

        It’s for the selling of state secrets.

        It’s for the tens of thousands of lies.

        It’s for the mockery of disabled people.

        It’s for inciting an insurrection.

        @rottingleaf I saw you say you’re not American and you don’t know who you would vote for. It’s easy to assemble words with no meaning in your position. I recommend reading up on Trump before judging from on high once more.

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      And poor Howard Dean who got castrated for simply getting excited at his own rally…

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          I don’t know if they manipulated it any, but they definitely put all the focus on it and how ‘non-presidential’ it was. He has to go to sleep every night hoping he doesn’t wake up.

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    I assumed when I read that he acted out oral sex that he acted out performing it on a woman but hmmm no …

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    I should not have clicked that. Thankfully, I’m going to kill some brain cells soon. So, I’m gonna 100% forget it! 😁