God fucking damnit I hate these people

I’m mainly posting this to vent,and I would recommend that you don’t watch that video unless you want a lethal dose of NATO bootlicking beamed straight into your frontal cortex

But holy mother of god are these people making my blood boil

The constant trashing of our past,the disgustingly pathetic way they praise the more “westernized” and “Nordic” countries in here,the fucking EU bootlicking, cheering on the slaughter of Ukraine and Pooh Poohing Russia as if it’s the main villain,it drives me nuts! This mf slave to the west is a Georgian,so he is especially obnoxious, considering his country was the proto-Ukraine and he has a chip on his shoulder about that. My god,I don’t wanna sound insensitive or racist,but I just have to ask,is this how POC feel when they see other POC going to bat for the democrats? I truly don’t mean to equate our struggle with theirs,but god damn,I feel like these people are so mentally colonized that they can’t see a future where they aren’t at the beck and call of the West. And it’s like,YOU SHOULD FUCKING KNOW BETTER,YOU FUCK,YOU LIVED HERE!YOU SAW WHAT SHOCK THERAPY DID TO US,HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU CONTINUE TO SING THE PRAISES OF THE EU AND NATO?

I’m sorry if this post doesn’t fit the comm,but god fucking damnit are these people insufferable,him and that Living Ironically fuck, constantly shitting on communism but praising the public transport (WHICH THE COMMIES BUILT!) and other tomfuckery. The one video that really made me lose my shit was when the Living guy (serbo-hungarian) shat on the legacy of Tito and Yugoslavia as a whole, that one was a bridge too far for me. Shit on Ceausescu,fine,he was no great angel,USSR hate I’m used to,but you,as a serb,who was born in Serbia,to shit on the most impressive success story of the balkans and trash the amazing progress that was done then just because you didn’t have the treats of today and the ability to desert your country and flee to the busom of empire fucking makes me not only ashamed,but impossibly angry.

This part of the globe is nothing special,we aren’t the center of it,and we are not free from the worst exceses of the West either,we practically keep the Roma population as an underclass and we gladly killed off our Jewish population and collaborated with the Hun(not Gary,but the sauerkraut eating one), not to mention the appalling misogyny and anti LGBTQ sentiment that practically permeates the air around here,but god damn,can’t we look for a way to address these issues and fix them without getting dogwalked by the West? FOR FUCKS SAKE,SOME PROGRESS WAS DONE UNDER SOCIALISM EVEN,AND WE JUST TOSSED IT OUT! But no, fuck that, let’s keep doing the funny stealing and ethnic cleansing jokes while gargling on the western boot! No pride whatever about the accomplishments we actually had,no desire to actually see the place get better beyond le corruption bad lol,no vision for the future.

I’m sorry this became a rant,but I needed a place to unload. If there’s a better comm to post this in,I’d be glad to delete the post. And I’m glad to delete it if my comparison to the struggle of POC in America is in poor taste.

  • Redcuban1959 [any]@hexbear.net
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    I have noticed this for sometime now, it seems there are some people from Eastern Europe that love to post videos/posts/memes where they promote unironically the same fucking steriotypes the US and Western Europe gives to Eastern Europe (The usual garbage that it’s all dirty, poor, broken and cold, people there are racist/xenophobic, all of this because they were part of Axis and then communists, but now that they have “democracy™” they should have been prosperous, but they are too “dumb” to prosper so they depend on the “Good” Europeans such as Germany and France for money and aid).

    The worst thing is that Eastern Europe and all of the Soviet countries used to be much better than what they were now. They used the be called the Second World (Part of the Communist/Socialist Bloc), even the US media didn’t portray these countries as poor, mostly they were seen as “victims” of Soviet influence or whatever. With exception of Albania, who due to not having good relations with the US, USSR and China, was treated the same way the DPRK (North Korea) was treated during the 1990’s - 2010’s, specially because it’s a muslim majority country, they were seen as the hermit kingdom of Europe.

    Not to say Eastern Europeans can’t laugh and make jokes about their own culture and country, we Latinos do that a lot, but theres a difference in just saying something or being critical of local politics, and being self-hating and considering yourself inferior to Westerns, when 80% of the problems in the Global South and Eastern Europe are the fault of the US and Western Europe intefering in these countries politics and economies. They literally supported people Yeltsin (During the late 1990’s literally everyone in Russia hated him, with exception of his rich friends and westerns. The US literally aided Yeltsin during the 1993 coup and the 1996 election, both cases where the Anti-Yeltsin communists, or even liberals, were going to win fairly), Lech Wałęsa, Viktor Orban. Hell, even Putin was supported by the US until the 2010’s.

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      Interesting point you made on joking about local politics

      See,here this is like a national past time,and it frequently devolves into what you said. You may ask why that is. My theory is that this culture was more or less created during communism and arose out of initially justifiable misgivings maybe mixed with fascist lost causers that weren’t gulaged. It became a useful tool for the US and CIA,a vector through which to spread pro capitalist thought,see Reagan and his Soviet jokes.

      Now,after they succeeded in destroying socialism here,the remnants of that have coalesced into a sort of national inferiority complex built on the basis of even older sentiments during the times of national liberation,where eastern European revolutionaries were educated in Paris or Vienna and tried transplanting liberal ideas into post ottoman principalities.

      In Romania,we had a writer,Caragiale, which frequently satirized the decisions of the “form without foundation” policies of the newly formed Kingdom of Romania which transplanted liberal institutions wholesale without actually creating a material basis for any capitalist development, seeing as the country was mostly agrarian and most of the land was owned by the church.

      Also, he frequently made fun of the then francophilia of the newly forming bourgeois,the “new money”, fighting with the landed nobility,the boyars,which were more accustomed to Turkish influence.

      Edit:To go even farther,I think it’s also an even more deeper shame of being conquered by a Muslim nation,and being forced to bend the knee to them,and pay jizya and also have kids kidnapped to become janissaries who would go on to fight against you.