MARK SURMAN, PRESIDENT, MOZILLA Keeping the internet, and the content that makes it a vital and vibrant part of our global society, free and accessible has

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    People who complain about this seems unaware that mozilla can’t make money from thin air. You don’t pay for the browser, so… Put 2 and 2 together…

    If you would actually consider paying for software you use all the time, companies could make quality stuff.

    I would pay 5 dollars per month for Firefox, no problems. I don’t like subscriptions but I would do it for Firefox. Been using it since the very first version of Firefox came out.

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      Mozilla gets millions in donations, but they give millions to their CEO and millions to political activists. Had Mozilla demonstrated they couldn’t survive on donations alone I (and presumably others) would be a little more forgiving. But right, from my perspective, it looks like the board is using the Mozilla coffers as their personal piggy bank instead of making a good faith effort to do anything that would allow them to survive without enshittifying.

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        Bloat is heavy… Signal has similar issues IMHO

        Product development is second or third order business.

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        So what kind of ceo would they get if they paid pennies? That would be a better scenario?

        Then it would be “mozilla can’t do shit with that crap ceo”.

        I don’t know. I’m really thankful we still have mozilla. May not be perfect but Google is horrible, so.

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      You are assuming advertisers want something that is user focused. I don’t think this is going to be that successful as targeted ads need lots of user data.

      Also they only make money if you click on an ad. How often are you doing that? Spoiler: you shouldn’t

      What I wish they would do is create a way I could compensate websites from the browser. I want a monthly subscription that donates a small amount to all the websites I visit.

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        Tangentially related: Mozilla’s big “draw” to this for advertisers is that they claim it will be able to (anonymously) track coversion rates. Not just click through but through to actual purchase. So advertisers can get true feedback on what works and what doesn’t, because clickthrough doesn’t directly correlate to sales.

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      People are pissed that firefox depends on google’s money, and theyre also pissed when they try to make their own money.

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        I don’t see anybody complaining about the act of Mozilla selling a VPN service, email masking service, or even their data removal service (until it was revealed their partner had a horrible track record, but Mozilla agreed with the community on that one).

        Hell, I even saw partnering with Google as a necessary evil, although apparently Mozilla looked at the company famous for abandoning their “Don’t be evil” mantra and decided to take a page from their playbook.

        Maybe, people are complaining about a company doing bad things.

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        2 months ago

        I just don’t want to lose control of my device. I could care less about how poorly run Mozilla is.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah it would be best if they could just create money, like the fed. Problem solved. :p