• exocrinous@startrek.website
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    8 months ago

    WTF does the sheep’s colour have to go with liberty? Do black sheep taste better? I thought their colour only mattered to humans because humans like to dye their woolen garments. A wolf doesn’t need to dye clothes.

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      8 months ago

      “Black sheep” I took to be in the sense of, you can throw a bunch of criticism at the person you’re oppressing and make it clear they’re an outlier from humanity and make it more palatable that you’re doing that and change the subject.

      “You shouldn’t be killing Gazan children on an industrial scale” “But they’re monsters, look at how terrible was Hamas’s attack on our music festival!” Things like that.

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        8 months ago

        If I was the wolf, I’d just point out that the shepherd eats lamb too, and is therefore just as much a murderer. The only difference is the amount of power in the equation. The wolf doesn’t need to be bigoted to make its point, there are much better criticisms against the way the shepherd deprives the sheep of liberty. I didn’t really understand why Lincoln was describing a foolish wolf who attacks the shepherd for bad reasons instead of readily available good ones. What the wolf says is pretty nonsense to me.

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          8 months ago

          That Lincone guy who said it was a famous dude for being smart and shit. Could be hype eh?

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            8 months ago

            “I looked at something Lincoln said, and it didn’t right away make sense to me. Clearly, then, this Lincoln guy needs to get on my level.”

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              8 months ago

              So I looked it up…

              Soulism is a school of anarchist thought which argues that reality, the laws of physics, and the limitations of our bodies are unjust heirarchies which must be abolished.

              https://www.reddit.com/r/serioussoulism/

              I think I am done chatting with this person after mistakenly embarking in good faith. You spotted the evangelical kookiness quicker than I did.

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                8 months ago

                You know how transphobes say to trans women, “You’re a biological man, that’s a physical fact of reality and you can’t change that”? That’s the kind of reality, law of physics, and limitation of our bodies that soulism seeks to abolish. Soulism recognises that such “laws” of reality as immutable sex are myths, and seek to abolish all belief in such laws.

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      8 months ago

      He probably was drawing the analogy with the landowners exploiting black people.

      And black sheep are rejected by the flock apparently.

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          8 months ago

          TBH I didn’t understand your soulism comment or how it is connected with your original comment.

          I was really just supporting your original comment.