Practices recorded by UNRWA include the use of a nail gun on prisoners’ knees, sexual abuse against both men and women and the insertion of what appears to be an electrified metal stick into prisoners’ rectums.

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    They found it plausible under a standard presumption that all facts alleged were true. South Africa’s complaint is filled with circular reasoning and citations to sources that don’t say with South Africa supposes they say. Such as article after article of unconfirmed reports.

    Plausibility is not probability.

    Kids die in war. Yes, it’s very sad, and I see how upset you are. We get it, you must be a very good person. I’m sorry Hamas made the news so upsetting. All this horseshit you’re talking about me being some person who thinks 12,000 kids deserve to die is you being small and emotional.

    Hmm. The international tradition on allied leafleting is that is was a war crime? That’s interesting. And yet it wasn’t a war crime that anybody got hung for, is it? Probably has something to do with the allies not being the people who put kids in harms way. Gaza could have kept to itself or elected someone other than Hamas (who immediately cancelled all future elections) and it would have been a post-Arab-spring young developing nation right now. We could have done as we did when South Africa finally came around, and sent our best and brightest there to help draft a new Constitution. Instead it chose a religious dictatorship to whom the concept of a written constitution of laws is religious infidelity, punishable by death. Instead, Gaza chose suicide bombings, mass shootings of civilians, and Hamas® brand Martyrdom,™ aka “instead of evacuating let’s all have family gatherings and silence our cell phones so we can protect our brave Hamas heroes hiding under our house!”

    You can take all 12,000 kids and put them right at the foot of Hamas’s leadership of Gaza. I’m sure they’d have of “oh no it’s the consequences of our own actions” before they revert to your logic of “why would Joe Biden do this?”

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      Now you’re pretending there are no objective facts, like the OVER 12000 DEAD CHILDREN? That all these are “alleged” things?

      Pick up a dictionary, IDF troll.

      plausible /ˈplɔːzɪbl/ adjective (of an argument or statement) seeming reasonable or probable.

      The UN does not state that something is PROBABLE without good cause, unlike you, who claim that nothing can be proved from anything and nothing is real unless the IDF says it is, and that every objective fact we have isnt’ actually an objective fact.

      You’re literally defending the massacre of children. How do you sleep at night?

      This isn’t war. This is a genocide. Those words have meanings, and the whole world, the UNITED NATIONS OF EARTH, have deemed it PROBABLE that Israel is committing a genocide, with an overwhelming majority.

      The Allies bombed military targets, not an open air prison. Do you think it may have been actually a bit silly if they had warned Germany of the bombs they were gonna drop? Especially because dropping those leaflets would’ve required an additional flight to drop them, putting the planes in danger? The only warnings were given to Japan about nukes, and there were no conventions about nukes when they were invented. Those came after WWII.

      Keep repeating your propaganda, just like the Nazis did. Every comment you leave is more delusional and every single one is unremovable in the long run, as even if you delete them, they are already archived. Like I said, I’m not debating you. You’re a trolly little propaganda bot who keeps ignoring all the actual evidence and can’t provide any credible sources for any of his rhetoric. Your comments are here so there’s objective proof that you’re defending a genocide, and that will never go away.

      “It’s all Hamas’ fault, they made us do this”. Exactly what the Nazis said about the Jews.

      Honestly, it’s beyond ironic that Israel is the one to commit an act like this. And to think there are still people alive who were in concentration camps. It beggars belief.

      https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/israel-white-phosphorus-used-gaza-lebanon https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/15/israel/palestine-unlawful-israeli-airstrikes-kill-civilians https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/14/gaza-unlawful-israeli-hospital-strikes-worsen-health-crisis https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/01/gaza-israeli-attacks-blockade-devastating-people-disabilities https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/09/israel-rafah-evacuation-plans-catastrophic-unlawful https://www.justsecurity.org/92138/on-civilians-return-to-north-gaza-what-international-humanitarian-law-requires/

      https://www.socialeurope.eu/israels-evacuation-order-violates-international-law

      Stomp your foot and cry all you want, you’re still the baddies, and every single comment you leave proves me more and more right, and showcases it to everyone reading this.

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        Pick up a dictionary, IDF troll.

        look. i butt heads with that user, too. i think they are blinded by their biases, and end up spreading false and misleading information due to that fact. BUT this factional-trolling accusation shit has got to stop. it creates a toxic environment. it’s a personal attack, which is prohibited in most of the communities on .world, but more than that, it has become so ubiquitous it is also functioning as a thought-terminating cliche.

        please, please, don’t do this.

        i can’t count how many time’s i’ve been called a republican shill, a russian shill, a hamas shill, or a bot. i’ve even emailed the admins of .world, asking them to try to reign this in. i don’t know what to do about it, but i am asking you to join me and elevate the discourse just a little.

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        Your first sentence immediately you’re putting words in my mouth again. Are you competent or what?

        Bud, you can find anything on the internet. Your link spam is not persuasive.

        Maybe if you let your lizard brain stop straw manning me for five seconds you’ll realize you’re tilting at windmills.

        And dude lol at your attempt at deciphering the UN order. Honestly what do you do for work and what’s your education because it’s obviously not this. Why you pretending?

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          I’ve said several times, you’re not someone who can be persuaded. That’s the only thing I’m trying to persuade people of. Hopefully you’d realise that too, but as mentioned previously, you’re not a person who can change their mind.

          The point is to showcase just how strong Israeli propaganda is.

          Currently, you’re literally chanting “UN doesn’t matter, OCHR doesn’t matter, human rights don’t matter, nothing can ever be proved and everything online is wrong, no reporters should be trusted (unless they’re pro-Israel) and in fact, facts don’t actually exist, anywhere, at all!”

          What exactly would it take for you to admit that Israel is committing several war crimes, the worst of which is the genocide of Palestinians? This is rhetorical, because you’re literally unable to answer that, as there is no amount of evidence that would ever change your mind, because you don’t base your opinion on facts, you base it on what you get told.

          Weird how “you can find anything on the internet”, but you can’t seem to find anyone who disagrees with the UNITED NATIONS and the Human Rights Watch. Guess “anything” doesn’t include “support for my propaganda”, huh? I mean, ofc it does, but even you realise how ridiculous those propaganda sites would be in comparison to the Human Rights Watch, United Nations, International Court of Justice and the OCHR.

          For instance you trying to assert that you, a random IDF trollito on Lemmy would know better than Raz Segal, the associate professor of holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University, who says:

          Perpetrators of genocide rarely express their intentions in direct and explicit ways, so courts are left to infer such intent through an analysis of state actions or leaked memoranda. In the case of Israel’s genocidal assault on Gaza, however, as the Law for Palestine database shows, people with command authority have been making genocidal statements repeatedly over the past three months.

          They have dehumanised Palestinians in their rhetoric, and painted the population in Gaza, as a whole, as Israel’s enemy. Bolstered by the hubris of settler colonial power and the knowledge that it has killed, maimed, destroyed, expelled, humiliated, imprisoned and dispossessed with more than seven decades of impunity and by the continued material and moral support of the United States, Israelis are explicit and unashamed about their genocidal intent because they have imagined and prosecuted a war against people who they see as colonised “savages”.

          Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant described Palestinians precisely in this way, as “human animals”, in his proclamation of the “total siege” on October 9. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described Gaza as “the city of evil” on October 7, and then on December 24, framed Israel’s attack as a fight against “monsters”. “This is a battle, not only of Israel against these barbarians, it is a battle of civilisation against barbarism,” he said.

          Israeli President Isaac Herzog said a few weeks earlier, on December 5, that Israel’s attack on Gaza is “a war that is intended, really, truly, to save western civilisation… [from] an empire of evil”.

          Netanyahu and other senior Israeli ministers have left no doubt that saving “Western civilisation” requires the total destruction of the Palestinians in Gaza by describing them as the Biblical people of Amalek – a people perceived in whole as an enemy that must be destroyed – and as Nazis.

          How does it feel being on the wrong side of history?

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            I am so disappointed at @[email protected]. We both like crows, we both like John Donne, we both share a lot probably, yet Palestinians like me are okay to starve and kill in his head. I would not feel safe meeting him in person ever. I don’t think he would hurt me, but I think if I got sniped in the head right next to him, he would just say “HAMAS” and walk away.

            Meanwhile, Israel is starving Gazans to death.